From a article I was writing about earlier today, I stumbled upon a thread started by a guy on a steroid forum (HERE). He mentions a routine which I recognized to be very similar to what Hakker was suggesting.
What I know for a fact was that Hakker used to post on steroid and bodybuilding website forums to gain an audience and people to come to his website and forum. In previous posts, I have copy and pasted his posts about what types of exercises and supplements you should do or take.
However the routine this guy posts appears to be far more complicated, with more supplements, and factors than the standard M.E.N.S. routine. If I was to guess, I would say that the ideas in this post was the HUSS (or HYBRID or H4GS) routine that Hakker was talking about years ago on his GrowTallerForum website. I know from searching that quite a few people have been trying to find out what exactly was the routine since Hakker has disappeared.
The routine is below and taken from the link above…
If you want to grow taller, your best best would be this stack –
Hexarelin 50mcg x morning (potent pi3k activator = bone growth after epiphyseal have become inactive, if theyre inactive use the SAM-e, MSM and Chon, to re-activate them via DNA Methylation, if your growth plates are still active then you will grow VERY tall with HEX)
GHRP-2 50mcg x3 morning, noon and pre-bed
CJC 1295 (w/o DAC) 100mcg x3 morning, noon and pre-bed
SAM-e (For the DNA methylation and cell proliferation on the ephisyeal plates)
MSM & chondroitin (DNA methylation again ^^)
Huperzine A (somatostatin inhibitor)
Generate and IGH1 – LG Sciences (mild pi3k activator only use 1 bottle of each they max out after 1 bottle you wont gain anything after 1 bottle of each)
Niacin 500mg – pre bed
Melatonin 3mg – pre bed
Multi
Test Drive or another test booster/estro reducer
And ofcourse good eating, sleep, protein, hanging on the monkey bars, and basketball or other LJSL type exercises, and avoid milk/dairy/sodas/junk food/white sugar/teas/coffees if you can,and it will greatly increase your height.
Me: If you guys would also like the M.E.N.S routine, I will post that below as well which was taken from this link HERE.
Routine/info
This is the main guy who setup this routine, his site requires registration:http://hakker.betaboard.net/t29-method-1-mens
Anyways the M.E.N.S. (Melatonin.Exercise.Niacin.Sleep) routine has gotten good success,young people with*thier*growth plates still open have grown 3+ inches from it
Quoted from his site:
In order to achieve a GH pulse from Niacin it is necessary to take the Flush version, Not the non-flush version as it will not work and will be a waste of time!
Here’s what you should look out for:Flush – Correct*Niacin Niacin as Vitamin B3 Niacin as Nicotinic Acid Non-Flush – Incorrect Niacinamide Inositol hexanicotinate Any other Niacin Timed release Niacin – Must chew up
How much do I take?
Taking niacin for prolonged periods causes the liver to get used to it and requires you to increase the dosage, but increasing dosage above 500mg will damage your liver a lot!So to get around this, we have two options:
1) Take 250mg – 500mg every odd day upon waking up. Then eat breakfast 3 hours later. Crucial.
2) Take 250mg upon waking up as above. And then Take another 250mg 3 hours after supper but before bed. Every odd day.*
When do I take it?
In order for the Niacin to properly work, it is recommended to take on an empty stomach, 3+ hours after eating or in the morning upon waking up. After taking the niacin, you cannot eat for another 3 hours so it is best to take it at night before bed or morning right after waking up.
Take every odd day, take melatonin every odd day before sleep, Melatonin helps decrease excess estrogen and promotes good sleep.
Sprint for 5 minutes every other day, sprinting increases GH.
Sleep 8-10 hours a day.
CLIFFS
THE FORMULA FOR HEIGHT INCREASE (final version):
M + E + N + S
Melatonin (3mg before bed) + Exercise (high intensity resistance, high intensity sprinting) + Niacin (500mg/day on empty stomach) + Sleep (8hrs +)Cliffs:
1. Increase growth hormone
2. Reduce estrogen. Estrogen seals the growth plates and causes the cessation of growth, although some is required for a pubertal growth spurt.(This for in terms of height, only works if your still a teen/young adult with your growth plates still open)
3.Niacin has shown to quadruple GH for a short period of time
4. For niacin to work one should take a flush-version (non*flushing*doesn’t*work) in the morning and eat breakfast 3 hours later, food inhibits Niacin from producing GH
5. Teens who go on this routine have grown 3+ inches.
Routine (Cliffs):
1.Take a flush version of niacin(250-500mg) in the morning , do not eat for 3 hours, non flush/timed release niacin will not work.*http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00…pf_rd_i=507846
2.Take niacin every other day, 4 weeks on 2 weeks off so you dont get used to it.
3.3mg Melatonin before bed , helps get rid of excess estrogen and promotes deep sleep
4. Sprint 5 minutes 3 times a week, increases GH by a ton.
There’s not enough evidence that a general increase in methyltransferase(DNA methylation) will help you grow taller. The specific methylater CARM1 may help you grow taller. In fact under methylation may be helpful for some height growth genes.
A lower dose of melatonin like 0.5 mg is likely better.
GH can’t hurt but it hasn’t been proven(that I’m aware) that exogenous GH on it’s own can increase height in open growth plates. But since LSJL doesn’t stimulate GH then increasing GH should help.
LSJL is already a PI3K pathway stimulator and we don’t know if the supplements are synergestic. It depends what pathways the supplements work under. If it stimulates PI3K through IGF-1(which LSJL doesn’t stimulate) for instance then the supplement should help.
any form of DNA methylation will just stop reactive parts of any molecule in general. It is a very shot gun approach. If you wanted to get specific and target actual parts like -OH – or =O areas, you want to use other things than just methylation
Hello, I am currently 19 years old and am 5’9″. My father is 6’1″ and my mother was 5’8″. I know that I may very well be done growing and that my growth plates maybe closed but I was wondering what your opinion on M.E.N.S routine was and if you think it would help me in my path to grow 3 inches. If you dont think this would work for me is there anything else that you would suggest such as programs or other supplements that could aid me in my goal of gaining 3 inches. If not please tell me if so please tell me. Id rather just hear the truth from someone who knows about this stuff then go searching on the internet buying products that dont work. Thank you for your time.
-Tom
Does anybody know where i can find the H4GS or HYBRID routine?
It seems like it dissapeared from the internet although people are still using these words.
The only thing i fount was the H5GS (i think related to the routines) posted in an polish Sport-Nutrition forum. Hakker listed 4 Methods: MENS HUSS and these two. I wonder if somebody still knows these routines, because i cant find anything (in google) after his Forum/he dissapeared.
I think this routine is a lie, invented by this site.
am 16 year old my hieght has stop growing i want to be taller for that i can do anything please help and tell me proper cycle and doses of each of them please