[Update & Edit: I finally figured out what the compound “Dimethylicartin” really is and it is a misspelling. It is actually spelled Dimethylicaritin (he forgot to add the “i”). This actually only makes the story and detective work even more interesting, at least I think.]

I think this post will be one of the most interesting and most revealing posts for people who have been a part of the height increase community for a long time.

My original collaborator to the website who went by the name Nikki (real name is Kazlina) told me that she and Tyler was on this other Grow Taller Forum that Hakker administered which is now down. There was one guy named Alkoclar who talked about a new possible way to increase height with a type of compound or powder as he claimed. At first I didn’t think much about his claim and assumed he was a scam but a recent finding in the last few hours has caused me to rethink about his claims. Plus, I wanted to take another stab at what his proposed compound could be. Before, I had proposed, and probably guessed wrong that his height increase compound was this Ayurvedic Urea active ingredient called Dhatrumurgasiniy. My old post about it was entitled “Can Dhatrumurgasiniy From Ayurvedic Urea Really Increase Height?“. I think I can conclude now that the compound, which is said to be a very rare compound only found in Nepal, is almost mostly likely to be a scam. Urea is essentially just the most commonly found compound in human urine. Those guys were selling not just a scam, but more likely urine to people at INSANE prices.

However, I wanted to take another stab at Alkoclar’s claims. Like I always said, I am willing to give almost any crazy suggestion, idea, method, proposed thought, technique, at least some chance and give a relatively swift, objective, scientific analysis and review on it. I don’t want to leave out any ideas. 

For this post, I would like to rewind the time back about 1 day ago, and treat this post as a story to explain my findings and try to put the pieces together as a detective. I certainty found the stuff I found today to be very interesting. It sort of goes to show that even the biggest scams and craziest claims has a kernel of truth and fact in them, just like so many stereotypes, urban legends, and generalizations.

A reader of the website who goes by the name “Knives” sent to me on the Natural Height Growth Facebook page a message saying that he has been doing his own extensive research on the idea of possible height increase and he had managed to find at least the supplement section for Hakker’s HUSS routine, which was something so many other Forum members had wanted to figure out and get ever since he left and closed the forums. If you want to know more about the supplements, go to the post entitled “H.U.S.S. Method For Height Increase By Hakker For Stacking Found“. Another commenter asked me about the exercise section and I find out that apparently the HUSS method may have more than just a supplement section ,but possibly also an exercise part to the method as well. I didn’t know that.

So “Knives” leaves me at the end of our exchange of emails a suggestion. Research two types of compounds, 1. Methylprotodioscin, and 2. Dimethylicartin. I have no idea what these two compounds are so I decided to just “google” the first compound’s name in and see what appears. The first search result that catches my eye is one that is directed to a forum post on ArthritisInsight.com.

The thing I found from the link was this interesting patent idea…

“harpagoside and methylprotodioscin in 5:1 ratio to relieve the symptoms and in the long run to cure arthritis”

So apparently there is another idea on how to stop the pain and cure arthritis by taking an oral supplement combination of whatever this harpagoside and methylprotodioscin at a 5:1 ratio is. That is actually sort of a really useful information to know for maybe later in life when I develop cartilage and bone problems and pain. I did only a very short google search at the harpagoside compound and it seems that it really does have some interesting medicinal and pharmaceutical effects. I will come back to doing some more research on harpagoside later, maybe in 6 months or so. 

The next google search result that was very interesting was an Alibaba.com product page, which shows me what this methylprotodioscin compound looks like (source). You can see from the database at the bottom that this compound is a really valid traditional chinese medicinal compound and apparently there are people who are supplying it on Alibaba.

Quick Details

It is actually the next link that really gets me curious. It is from Chemkind.com..

The compound methylprotodioscin is actually short for a longer chemical name methylprotodioscin myostatin 3,7-bis(2-hydroxyethyl)icaritin. This was how I realized that the Dimethylicaritin was misspelling and that it had an effect on myostatin. I remember many times on Tyler’s sight where he talked about how myostatin was something you wanted to inhibit or avoid for height increase. Kazlina in a pervious post showed that however the compound Statin was a natural compound for bone increase, but only in terms of bone mass and density. From other old posts, we find out that many body builders have used and manipulated myostatin to gain muscle mass and loss fat.

The company which sells this stuff claims …

“…plant based compounds.myostatin antagonists to cancer cures. We are a R&D team specialized on detecting plant origined material/compounds that have potent activity againist chronic diseases such as heart disease, cancer ,autoimmune and neurodegenerative diseases. Rather than offering herbal extracts suitable for long term usage with an intent of preventive means , we offer effective therapeutic cures through purified herbal and/or semi-synthetic compounds.

Fields range from diabetes both type 1 and type 2 to cancer, bone density loss , sexual problems , neurological problems , decreased brain function especially short term memory , wound healing issues, geriatric muscle loss and sarcopenia ,decreased sensory function , Alzheimers , Parkinson’s , autoimmune diseases such as MS , celiac disease etc….”

It seems that this compound is really hard to come by and has properties which helps it cure some of the most common serious pathologies like cancer and neurodegenerative diseases. When we see who the supplier is, we find a name “Can Alkoclar is an exporter of Turkey Plant Extract products“. So the obvious question is to wonder whether the name Alkoclar is the same person who was on the Grow Taller forums. When I do a quick search for the word/name “alkoclar” in google, there is only a few results and most of them are related to Turkey and Turkish Hotels. So I decided not to pursue that route.

Further search on Google reveals that it seems to be mainly from China. You can also get the compound from Mexico from a plant called Solanum rostratum (Solanaceae) (source). On the 4th page of the google results, a page from a thread off of the Grow Taller Forum shows up with this posted. Thee link however is broken from the forum being gone.

The Methylprotodioscin , Icariin, Niacin, GPLC routine