I had written long ago a post entitled “The Tallest Ethnic Group” about the fact that it seems that the tallest ethnicity or group of people seem to be coming from the Croatian-Serbian region of the world. It was well known even from the Wikipedia article on human height in the chart for country listings that people in the Dinaric Alps region of Eastern Europe were unusually tall.
However there have been one interesting link from WiseGeek I saw maybe years ago where suggested that the one area or region in croatia or serbia which have the height gene turned up to the max is a county in Croatia known as Dalmatia, or Herzegovina, or the Montenegro region, which is probably most well know for the dogs that come from the region, Dalmatians.
Update 4/29/2013:
I will gladly admit that every single nation in the world will have its own share of giants but when we look at the percentage of people over a certain height limit and how frequent above average in height men (and possibly women) are coming out of the country, or at least being listed at local and national volleyball and basketball teams, it is rather hard not to see that Serbia and Croatia and the surrounding areas have been producing some extraordinarily tall people in the last 30-40 years. Many of them have gone on to become internationally famous athletes or entertainers.
A recent post I found from TheTallestMan.com website suggest that the anecdotal stories seem to be true. It is Giants from Split (Croatia) by a poster named Herve on March 7, 2013
Split is the biggest city of Dalmatia (Croatia), about 200 000 inhabitants. So, just have a look on the number of men at least 210 cm I have found at that day (official and exact heights that I asked myself to each of them or closer family), keeping in mind there are still more :
1 ŠUNDOV Bruno 221/1980/Split/bb.
2 VRŽINA Hrvoje 219/1981/Split
3 KREČAK Marko 218/1984/Split/bb.
4 BIBER Vjeko 215/1974/Split/bb.
5 HENJAK Hrvoje 214/1978/Split/bb.
6 LOVRIĆ Josip 213/1968/Split/bb.
7 POLJAK Joško 213/1978/Split/bb.
8 TABAK Žan 213/1970/Split/bb.
9 KRALJEVIĆ Marijan 212/1970/Pforzheim (GER)/bb.
10 JURIĆ Damir 211/1959/Split/bb.
11 MADUNIĆ Petar 211/1993/Split/bb.
12 VLADOVIĆ Nikola 211/1987/Split/bb.
13 DELIĆ Nenad 210/1984/Split/bb.
14 JURIĆ Joško 210/1935?/Split/bb.
15 KRSTULOVIĆ Željko 210/1963/Split
16 RAÐA Dino 210/1967/Split/bb.
17 VUJIĆ Ivan 210/1977/Split/bb.
And if you go in Vrgorac (only 2 100 inhabitants !), you could meet :
1° ÐUGUM Dragan 213/1985/bb.
2° ÐUGUM Ante 212/1988/bb.
3° VUJČIĆ Nikola 211/1978/bb.<
This season (2012-2013), in football (soccer) club “Hajduk” from Split, the three goal-keepers : Goran Blažević (26 years old), Lovre Kalinić (22) and Pavao Vugdelija (25), are all 2,01 m tall ! Who says better ?
Herve would write again in a another post entitled “NEW GIANTS“
1° Marko DUJKOVIC (226 cm, 1990, Kumanovo, FYROM) : Serbian basketball player (from FYROM).
2° Dalibor MICIC (224 cm, 1985, Zrenjanin, Serbia) : Serbian basketball player.
3° Bojan DODIK (222 cm, 1984, Sarajevo, Bosnia) : Serbian basketball player (from Bosnia).
4° Nemanja BESOVIC (221 cm, 1992, Podgorica, Montenegro) : Serbian basketball player (from Montenegro).
5° Jere LAKOS (220 cm, 1968, Sibenik, Croatia) : Croatian former basketball player.
Then I would find from the profile on Krist Novoselic height on the website celebheights.com even more evidence to show that for the small ethnic group being the serbo-croatians, they have a very high height average in general. However the poster on the listed croatian athlete’s heights is also named Hervé. I would suspect then that the two Herves are the same person who is probably just trying to promote the idea that Croatians are the tallest in the world.
These are Herve’s and other profile’s posts from the celebheight.com profile.
pochy says on 7/Sep/11
No. Dalmatians are taller than Dutch. Go and visit South Croatia + Montenegro, then visit Holland, and then you’ll change your mind.
issuetall says on 14/Sep/11
@Shawn Yeah, he is tallest basketball player in Montenegro. But I don’t know whether the new negeration(15-18 years old) are over 210cm in Montenegro. If anybody knows that, please introduce those Montenegro youth giant.
Civis Batavi says on 25/Sep/11
Albanians and Montenegrins are the tallest on the planet i believe.
radek says on 14/Dec/11
pochy says on 7/Sep/11
No. Dalmatians are taller than Dutch. Go and visit South Croatia + Montenegro, then visit Holland, and then you’ll change your mind.
No Its wrong most people who visit holland only go to places like amsterdam and rotterdam, which are around 50% of foreign origin people, and out of the 50% of ethnic dutch the dutch/indo mixed are considered by goverment as natives, therefore real dutch in amsterdam/rotterdam/den haag are below 50%, in comparison montenegro is about 99.9% natives. Go to leeuwarden or sneek in northern netherlands, people there are by far the tallest you can encounter anywhere in the world, montenegrins dont even come close, the ethnic dutch, specially the ones from northern/northeastern regions are not only quite distinctive for their huge average height(as they are by far the tallest in europe) but also for having the regions with highest concentration of natural blond people anywhere in the world, you can find far more extremely tall/extremely blond people in norther-netherlands than you would do in most of scandinavia.
jovan says on 15/Jan/12
i go to montnegro-serbia-montenegro every summer, my dad is 6,3- 6,4. he is taller then bessicly 90-95 percent of all torontonians. But when he goes to montenegro he seems SOOO short. OMG, i even hear him talking to his cousin about it,his cousin is like 6,4 6,5. And I went there this year, I am 13 turning 14 in like 1 week and I don’t remember more then 5 people being shorter then my dad, and not that much shorther. Everon eis SOOO much taller then my dad there and compared to like 99 percent of Montenegrins he is a dwarf. just saying.
issuetall says on 8/Jun/12
@jovan: I believe what you said. Many people who visited montenegro always insist this viewpoint is that the montenegro people are very tall, extremely tall. I don’t think each signle one is liar.
vlad says on 16/Aug/12
i have been to montenegro this summer, as i do to visit my family, and the people by the coast are tall, like you see a lot of 6 ft 10 ppl and the occasional giant lurching at 7 ft, but you have to go to central montenegro to really see the giants, i was driving in a town there, and we saw like 3 7 footers all walking together and a 6 ft 6 girl in a span of 2 blocks, and you see a lot of big guys. they are also very tall in niksic and podgorica, both cities i have been too. if you want the REAL montenegrin experience, go inland to see niksic and podgorica and tara canyon, the second biggest canyon in the world to grand canyon, only 200 meters more shallow then the grand canyon, niksic and podgorica are not attractive cities, as poor apartment blocks lined with run down and abandoned buildings, leaking with water along the sides. but town center is a great experience. dt niksic is the worst place to pick a bar fiht, youll fight 7 foot cowboys every time. montenegrins look unique , and you can tell a local apart from a tourist anytime, even white tourists. having gone to croatia many times, montenegrins are muchhhhh taller, and would tower over croatians
pochy says on 23/Aug/12
@ Vlad Yes. Got the same impression as you. In some Montenegrin towns you very rarely stumble across a male under 6’3/6’4….if you have to bet the age of a male shorter than 6’1, you’d better bet an age under 15 years. Of course girls are VERY tall too. Montenegrins are definitely the tallest in Europe. I wonder why someone still insists with the Dutch.
Hervé says on 12/Sep/12
The three goalkeepers of Football Club Hajduk (Split, Croatia) for 2012/2013 : Goran Blazevic (2,01 m, age 26), Lovre Kalinic (2,01 m, age 22) and Pavao Vugdelija (2,01 m, age 25)…
Hervé says on 21/Feb/13
@issuetall : Hey, my friend ! The name of the guy was Olivier CABON (2,09 m, 1972). So, he spent some days in the town of Makarska (60 km south-east from Split, Dalmatia) during the summer 2000. He told me his kind of “frustration” when nobody there seemed to notice his height (when elsewhere, he was the attraction in the streets) and the number of men 2 m tall, which seemed to him the same as the ones 1,90 m in France. But his biggest surprise was some evening when, arriving to a night club, he met in the entrance three guys even taller than him ! Quite incredible ! Take care !
issuetall says on 27/Feb/13
@Hervé : Hi! Hervé! Glad to see you come back! And you told another story if I remeberred correctly: you have a Croatian friends who is 200cm, and he worded as Croatian ambassador to France. He used to tell you that he usually has met a lot of guys are tower than him in his hometown(belong to Dalmatia). Even if he is 2 meter, he felt not tall in there. Could you tell this story again? I am so interested in it.
Hervé says on 4/Mar/13
Yes, he’s a former attached of embassy in Paris, now back in Croatia. Originally from Drnis (30 km north from Sibenik), a small town where people are extremely tall on average (about 187 cm for the youngsters), he told me once, as a matter of fact, that when being in Dalmatia, he felt himself sometimes a kind of “draw” beside men much taller than him…
Bon_ says on 7/Mar/13
Herve, how much individuals who are 210 cm tall are there in Croatia?
Hervé says on 8/Mar/13
At that day, I know exactly 116 (sure there are still more) ! And many youngsters are coming…
Hervé says on 8/Mar/13
Not 116, but 119 ! Here they are :
CROATIAN GIANTS (>= 210 CM TALL) [119]
* : still growing up at.: athletics bb. : basketball hb. : handball tn. : tennis vb. : volley-ball
(N°/LAST NAME & FIRST NAME/HEIGHT/YEAR OF BIRTH/PLACE OF BIRTH/SPORT)
A CROATS FROM CROATIA [93]
1 ANDRIĆ Lukša 210/1985/Dubrovnik/bb.
2 BARIŠIĆ Danko 210/1985/Osijek/bb.
3 BEČA Bruno * 211?/1994/Zagreb?/bb.
4 BIBER Vjeko 215/1974/Split/bb.
5 BILAN Miro 213/1989/Šibenik/bb.
6 BILIĆ Ante 214/1956/Lovreć
7 BOBANOVIĆ Darko 218/1985/Rijeka/bb.
8 BORČIĆ Branko 210/1973/Mona Val(AUS)/bb.
9 BOTA Marin 215/1979/Ludwigshafen(GER)/bb.
10 BREKALO Kristijan 211/1985/Zagreb/bb.
11 BUDANOVIĆ Vedran 210/1977/Zadar/bb.
12 BULJUBAŠIĆ Mirko 211/1978/Metković/bb.
13 CINGEL Marko 212/1991/Našice/hb.
14 ČEČUK Milan 210/1979/Omiš
15 ČIRKO Ivan 210/1987/Trogir/bb.
16 ČOVIĆ Vedran 210/1978/Makarska/bb.
17 ĆURKOVIĆ Ivica 210/1966/Sinj
18 DELIĆ Nenad 210/1984/Split/bb.
19 DIVIĆ Josip 214/1980/Slavonski Brod/bb.
20 DOGAN Dino 212/1987/Osijek/bb.
21 DOLIĆ Stipe 211/1981/Sinj
22 ÐUGUM Ante 212/1988/Makarska/bb.
23 ÐUGUM Dragan 213/1985/Split/bb.
24 GOJEVIĆ-ZRNIĆ Zvonimir 213/1982/Zagreb/bb.
25 GOVIĆ Hrvoje 210/1988/Šibenik/bb.
26 GRBIN Peđa 210/1979/Pula/bb.
27 GRGAT Ivan 210/1974/Sinj/bb.
28 GUDELJ Mario 210/1984/Split/bb.
29 HENJAK Hrvoje 214/1978/Split/bb.
30 HORVATIĆ Silvio 213/1973/Zagreb/bb.
31 IVANKOVIĆ Danijel’ 210?/1963/Zagreb/bb.
32 JURIĆ Damir 211/1959/Split/bb. [son of Joško JURIĆ]
33 JURIĆ Joško 210/1935?/Split
34 KARLOVIĆ Ivo 211/1979/Zagreb/tn.
35 KASUN Mario 213/1980/Vinkovci/bb.
36 KAŠTROPIL Franko 211/1984/Blato/bb.
37 KODRIN Marko 213/1990/Karlovac/bb.
38 KOPLJAR Marko 210/1986/Požega/hb.
39 KRALJEVIĆ Marijan 212/1970/Pforzheim(GER)/bb.
40 KREČAK Marko 218/1984/Split/bb.
41 KRNČEVIĆ Vlado’ 214?/1952?/Zagreb/bb.
42 KROLO Ivan 217/1983/Osijek/bb.
43 KRSTULOVIĆ Željko 210/1963/Split
44 LAKOŠ Jere 220/1968/Šibenik/bb.
45 LALIĆ Jure 211/1986/Makarska/bb.
46 LIVAJIĆ Dario 211/1979/Split/bb.
47 LONČAR Krešimir 210/1983/Split/bb.
48 LOVRIĆ Josip 213/1968/Split/bb.
49 LOZANČIĆ Jure 211/1983/Split/bb.
50 MADUNIĆ Petar 211/1993/Split/bb.
51 MARASOVIĆ Frano 213/1992/Split/bb.
52 MARIJANOVIĆ Marino 214/1986/Zagreb/bb.
53 MILANOVIĆ Grgo 211/1990/Sinj/bb.
54 MIOČ Ante 212/1992/Zagreb/bb.
55 MOŽAR Igor 211/1984/Slavonski Brod/bb.
56 MUSTAPIĆ Željko 210/1978/Rijeka/bb.
57 NICEVIĆ Sandro 210/1976/Pula/bb.
58 NOVOSEL Darko 210/1989/Karlovac/bb.
59 PAPAC Ivan 210/1987/Vinkovci/bb.
60 PARAVINJA Miloš 210/1979/Pula/bb.
61 PEJČINOVIĆ Davor 211/1971/Altenkirchen(GER) /bb.
62 POJATINA Marijan 213/1981/Zagreb/bb.
63 POLJAK Joško 213/1978/Split/bb.
64 RAÐA Dino 210/1967/Split/bb.
65 RIBARIĆ Mario 214/1959/Sisak/bb.
66 SABLJIĆ Ivan 210/1989/Split/bb.
67 SEDLAR Igor 213/1984/Zagreb/bb.
68 SKELIN Mate 212/1974/Zagreb/bb.
69 SLAVICA Ante 212/1976/Šibenik/bb.
70 SLIVAR Filip 210/1987/Zagreb/bb.
71 ŠODA Toni 212/1988/Split/bb.
72 ŠOLIĆ Vicko 212/1978/Šibenik/bb.
73 ŠUNDOV Bruno 221/1980/Split/bb.
74 ŠVERKO Ivan 212/1992/Rijeka/bb.
75 TABAK Žan 213/1970/Split/bb.
76 TADIĆ Marko 212?/1993/Ðakovo/bb.
77 TOMIĆ Ante 215/1987/Dubrovnik/bb.
78 TONČINIĆ Filip 212/1984/Opatija/bb.
79 VISKOVIĆ Zoran 211/1975/Makarska/bb.
80 VLADIMIR Igor 210/1977/Metković/hb.
81 VLADOVIĆ Nikola 211/1987/Split/bb.
82 VRANKOVIĆ Stojko 217/1964/Drniš/bb.
83 VRSALJKO Denis 212/1982/Zadar/bb.
84 VRŽINA Hrvoje 219/1981/Split
85 VUČIĆ Hrvoje 210/1991/Split/bb.
86 VUJČIĆ Nikola 211/1978/Vrgorac/bb.
87 VUJIĆ Ivan 210/1977/Split/bb.
88 VUKIČEVIĆ Ivan 210/1993/Zagreb/bb.
89 VULIN Šime 210/1983/Šibenik/vb.
90 ZARADIĆ Ivan 211/1988/Šestanovac/bb.
91 ZUBČIĆ Tomislav 214/1990/Zadar/bb.
92 ŽAJA Ivica 210/1956/Aržano/bb.
93 ŽORIĆ Luka 210/1984/Zadar/bb.
00 BRZICA Marin * 209/1994/Split/bb.
00 BULJEVIĆ Lovro * 204/1998/Zagreb/bb.
00 GAŠPERT Matej * 207/1997/Rijeka/bb.
00 MARIĆ Marin * 208/1994/Split/bb.
00 RADUNIĆ Matej * 207/1996/Pula/bb.
00 VRANKOVIĆ Antonio * 208/1996/Minneapolis (USA)/bb. (son of 217 Stojko)
00 VUKIČEVIĆ Josip * 209/1997/Zadar/bb.
B CROATS FROM BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA [21]
1 ARAPOVIĆ Franjo 215/1965/Slipčići/bb.
2 BAGARIĆ Dalibor 217/1980/Munich(GER)/bb.
3 BARAĆ Stanko 216/1986/Mostar/bb.
4 BLAŽEVIĆ Draženko 210/1963/Mostar/bb.
5 BRKIĆ Jozo 210/1986/Mostar/bb.
6 BUBALO Domagoj 211/1991/Mostar/bb.
7 JOVIĆ Antonio 211/1970/Stolac
8 JURKOVIĆ Ivan 210/1990/Čapljina/bb.
9 KALINIĆ Vedran 210/1982/Zenica/bb.
10 KRALJEVIĆ Filip 214/1989/Mostar/bb.
11 LONČAR Markus * 211/1996/Livno/bb.
12 MIHALJ Ivan 210/1990/Odžak/vb.
13 MIKULIĆ Josip 211/1993/Mostar/bb.
14 MILIČEVIĆ Zlatko 211?/1973/Jajce/bb.
15 NOVAK Mario 215/1989/Mostar/bb.
16 PILIĆ Jakov 210/1993/Split(CRO)/bb.
17 PLANINIĆ Darko 210/1990/Mostar/bb.
18 PRIMORAC Mladen 210/1990/Mostar/bb.
19 RIKIĆ Robert 217/1990/Mostar/bb.
20 ŠEKELJA Dragan 210/1991/Livno/bb.
21 VRANJEŠ Nediljko 210/1992/Posušje/bb.
00 ANTOLOVIĆ Stjepan * 206/1997/Zenica/bb.
00 ANTUNOVIĆ Sandro * 204/1998/Sarajevo/bb.
00 BENDER Dragan * 207?/1997/Čapljina?/bb.
00 ČOLAK Mateo * 203/1998/Mostar/bb.
00 JURKOVIĆ Valentin * 209/1994/Metković(CRO)/bb.
00 ZUBAC Ivica * 207/1997/Mostar/bb.
C CROAT FROM SERBIA [1]
1 BULAT Boris 211/1988/Belgrade/bb.
D CROAT FROM SLOVENIA [1]
1 KLEPO Milan 212?/1980/Ljubljana/bb.
E CROATS FROM OTHER COUNTRIES [3]
1 BOGUT Andrija (Andrew) 212/1984/Mulgrave(AUS)/bb.
2 MARAS Robert 216/1978/Freiburg/Breisgau(GER)/bb.
3 RUBIĆ Denis 216/1975/New-York(USA)/bb.
UNCERTAIN CROATIAN GIANTS (>= 210 CM TALL) [8?]
A CROATS FROM CROATIA [5]
1 BELIĆ (Josip ?) 210?/1955?/Split?
2 KOLOVRAT Ivan 210?/1945?/Imotski?
3 MEDIĆ Josip 210?/1972?/Šibenik? [brother of Mario MEDIĆ]
4 MEDIĆ Mario 210?/1973?/Šibenik?
5 SAMARDŽIĆ Filip 211?/1977/Zagreb?/bb.
B CROATS FROM BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA [3]
1 BAGARIĆ Damir 210?/1975/Munich(GER) [brother od Dalibor BAGARIĆ (217/1980)]
2 KARAČIĆ Gordon 210?/1981/Sarajevo?/bb.
3 KRALJEVIĆ Željko 211?/1964/Ljubuški?
DEAD CROATIAN GIANTS (>= 210 CM TALL) [18?]
A CROATS FROM CROATIA [16]
1 BENČEVIĆ Mato 211/1934/Bicko [+ 1983] [grandfather of Josip DIVIĆ (214/1980)]
2 BILIĆ Jakov 217?/1900?/Lovreć [+ 1969?]
3 BOGUT 220/?/? [+] [ancestor of Australian-Croat Andrew BOGUT (212/1984)]
4 ČERINA Ivan 213?/1964/Split?/bb. [+ 1984?]
5 ĆOSIĆ Krešimir 211/1948/Zagreb/bb. [+ 1995]
6 ÐUGUM Jozo 210/1886/Vrgorac [+ 1968] [great grandfather of Dragan ÐUGUM (213/1985)]
7 FARČIĆ Ferucijo 213?/1908?/Milna
8 IVKOVIĆ Stojan 210/1915/Bijeli Vir [+] [grandfather of Stojan IVKOVIĆ (207/1966/Dubrovnik)]
9 KOLOVRAT 215?/1920?/? [+] [great granduncle of Milan KOLOVRAT (207/1986/Zagreb)]
10 KUSIĆ Grgo 218?/1892/Grabovac [+ 1918] [also claimed 237 cm tall]
11 MIJOVIĆ Perica 210/1881/Ðurinići [+ 1942] [great grandfather of Perica MIJOVIĆ (209/1961)]
12 PEĆIRKO 220?/1890?/Petrinja [+] [great grandfather of Slobodan PEĆIRKO (207/1958/Zagreb)]
13 PETRIČEVIĆ Zvonko 210/1940/Prizren(KOS)/bb. [+ 2009]
14 SPRČIĆ Nikola 218/1902/Bijeli Vir [+ 1971]
15 TOMIĆ Matija 223/1739/Split? [+]
16 ANONYMOUS 210/?/Sućuraj [+] [exact measure of his skeleton]
B CROATS FROM BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA [2?]
1 HRGOVIĆ Petar 210?/1917/Livno [+ 1945]
2 MUSTAPIĆ Perica 210?/1920?/Stolac [+ 1945] [granduncle of Željko MUSTAPIĆ (206/1990/Sarajevo)]
GIANTS FROM CROATIAN DESCENT (>= 210 CM TALL) [8]
1 BENČIĆ Martin 210?/1979/Bratislava(SLQ)/vb.
2 DABICH Michael 210?/1942/Lander(USA)/bb.
3 MARDESICH Mike 210/1977/Long Beach(USA)/bb.
4 REDIC Larrell 210?/1977/?(USA)/bb.
5 SMREK Mike 210?/1962/Welland(CAN)/bb.
6 STIPANOVICH Steve 210?/1960/Saint Louis(USA)/bb.
7 THOCOLICH John 223?/1982/Watkato(NZL)/bb.
8 TONKOVICH Andy 210?/1922/?(USA)/bb.
issuetall says on 9/Mar/13
@Hervé : Hi Hervé! I heard of the tallest croatian is Grgo Kusić (1892–1918),According to some accounts,his height reached 238cm.
issuetall says on 9/Mar/13
@Hervé, Hi,Hervé! I know some young croatian basketball player are 210 cm or taller:
- Frano Marasovic C 2.16 16.08.1992 Split (CRO)
- Josip Mikulic 213 1993 CRO
- Petar Madunic C 2.11 23.07.1993 Split (CRO)
- LONCAR, MARKUS C 211 CRO 08/04/1996
- GASPERT, MATEJ C 210 CRO 05/07/1997
Hervé says on 11/Mar/13
Hey, issuetall ! You have all data you need about tall Croats just below (Frano Marasovic is 213 without shoes, Josip Mikulic is 211 and Matej Gaspert was 207 in september 2012)… What about Grgo Kusic, one of his relatives told me he was 237 cm, and another one 218 cm. So, it’s difficult to know his exact height… Anyway, tennisman Ivo Karlovic is really 211 cm tall, and not 208 as officially listed…
Hervé says on 12/Mar/13
Anyway, one of the tallest Croats of the history could be Bosnian Edhem Kadusic (as muslims from Bosnia are from a huge part from Croatian descent). He was exactly 238 cm and 118 kg (I personnally know one of his nephews), born in 1917 in Domislica (region of Zenica), deceased in 1961. Was a farmer.
Update May 28, 2014:
It seems that this post in recent days have started to get a very large number of visitors and traffic. However, along with that traffic has also come a lot of ethnic tension and fighting. Two frequent posters and commenters specifically have gone back and forth in arguing over conflict between the Croatians and Serbians. Me being from the USA, I do not know enough about the conflict in the former Yugoslavia back in the early 90s, in the conflict in Montenegro, Kosovo, etc. and the Insane violence that happened between the Muslim Bosnians, Orthodox and the Catholics. It reminds me of what happened in Chechnya. This type of conflict is not allowed on this website. At least on here, we should try to
If you don’t have anything useful to report, don’t replace it with retarded nonsense.
You base your facts of 50 tall people and croatians who say “we croatians are the tallest” ?
Retard, wheres the articel about americans being superior to anyone – because they say so?
You see how stupid you are? I hope so
If you realize that Croatia Is a such a small country with only 4,6 million habitats. And only one region of Croatia have a 50 giants on cca 100 000 habitants…, but not all people are good in mathematics.
Also I think that is easier to believe that some famous country has a giants, not Croatia, 99 percent of world population still doesn’t know where it is, anything about history.
But yes, in that small country there are tall people, with big heart, always were and always will be.
Its true about croatians as very tall people.In former yugoslavia croats are tallest and serbs are smallest, anyway montenegrians are ethnic croats like bosnians and people from hercegovina which means croats are tallest on balkan but for whole world i don t now
Research data says otherwise
I have no stats but being Croatian, brought up in Australia, with a best friend in high school who was Dutch, from mere observation I would say –
1. All the Dutch people I have ever met, male and female, are extremely tall and very solid.
2. Croatians from middle Dalmacija (I have been back many times) are generally v v tall! Least the natives are. My husband (German, English, Scottish Australian) says Dalmacians are GIANTS! There are lots of inlanders (Vlaji) on the coast now, but they do not have coastal genes and tend to be much shorter.
But there are small types too. My mothers side are short – medium. Out of 6 kids and 2 grandparents all are blonde – dark haired and all blue eyed. Males are av 172 cms, female I’d say around 150 cm. They have been on coast at least 500 years
My father’s family (8 incl parents) are darker and much taller, ranging from blonde/blue-green eyed to dark haired,/light brown eyes (my father is the darkest). Dad was 183cm, mum around 155cm. I’m 175.5 (f) brother 192 cm (m). We are both darker like our father (although both of us were blonde when little) and we both have shades of hazel eyes – mine lighter. We are both extremely tall for our genders and compared to our 19 cousins we are the tallest – apart from two female cousins, both my height and both, like me, slender build. Theory is that dads family (only living on coast for maybe just over 100yrs) are originally from Herzegovina.
Compared to my Dutch friend and her large family, my inner family (dad, bro, me) were about the same height but they are/were much more solid, although my brother is quite solid too
We don’t however have the tall gene on both sides of our family. Our mother’s side are bordering on being v short – grandmother was about 137cm… so go figure.
I think its a genetic footprint left over from the time of giants… but then I am not your average thinker ….
Although generally they say kids are getting taller from eating lots of meat and milk 🙂
Hey, I’m 6ft 2inches around 185cm tallest in my family my brother is around 5ft 11inches making him a little shorter, I’m just reading into this tall gene for the first time, it was mentioned I could have a little Italian background which is close to these Croats place and alps I was blonde for baby but hair grow darker around 2 or 3 and hazel eyes, also have blue eyes and blonde hair in family and dad has brown eyes but not tall only 5ft 7inches, I would really love to visit some of these places in Europe and meet these giant people. Most of my family moved to Canada from Europe in the 50’s I think pretty cool to read about all this tall people!
Also here’s another theory. A v famous spiritualist writer writing in early 1900s, Alice Bailey, once wrote that old races are very short for example the Chinese…old race, short people and new races of people tend to be tall. She said new races of people, where there are genetic mixes, tend to produce tall/new people and as that race becomes older they start to get shorter again.
Dinaric Alps area would have to be one of the most racially mixed regions therefore one of the newest racial (mixed) types in the whole of Europe. Cro DNA is a mix of Northern European (we originally came from Ukraine/Poland), Indigenous (Illyrian, also white Euros), Romani (dark Romans – Solta island is still full of v dark Romani), Greeks (Hvar, Brac), Vlaji (unknown origin), Avars (rode into Balkans at the same time as Northern Cros), Turks – inland Dalmacija has some Turk genes, my sisinlaw has them and they know her ancestry has Turkish genes as Turks invaded inland Dalmacija, and prob some genes from Mongols, Germans, Hungarians, Venetians and the list goes on..but generally most of these mixes are still white Euro and not yellow and def no black genes.
…That said, the Southern Italians, mixed with Arabs/Moores, Africans and white Euros tend to be short so maybe that’s because the racial mix (mainly Arabs) tend to be med – short in stature.
Dunno, a theory from Alice writing a long time ago….
Laka Noc
Vlaji is general term for croatian people from dalmatian highland….vlasi on the other hand are of romanian origin. Don’t mix them. Btw vlaji from inland are among tallest people in Croatia. On the other hand, people from coast and islands are much shorter.
Yes people from Dinaric Alps are with no doubt tallest in the world. Nobody has so many 2m+ Giants.
Serbs and Montenegros are considered tallest with Bosniaks just behind. Croats/Macedonians/Slovenains were smallest in ex-yu.
Croats are taller then serbs and slovenes by 1 inch on avreage.Next time informe your self before you come here to leave comment !
No, Serbs are taller then Croats because they are much more Dinaric. Croats are more panonian people and on average shorter then Serbs. Statistic also shows it . Dutch and Serbs are tallest people in world.
CROATIA
42% I2a2 (Dinaric)
29% R1a (Balto-Slavic, Germanic, Indo-Iranian)
8% I1(pre Germanic-Nordic)
8% R1b (Italo-Celtic, Germanic)
6% E1b1b(North African, East African, Balkan)
3.5% J2 (Greco-Anatolian,Mesopotamian, Caucasian)
1.5% T (Middle Eastern, East African)
1% I2b (pre Celto-Germanic)
1% G (Caucasian, Greco-Anatolian)
0% J1 (caucasian, mesopotamian, semitic, jewish)
0% N1c1 Uralo-Finnic, Baltic, Siberian)
SERBIA
34.5% I2a2 (Dinaric)
20.5% E1b1b(North African, East African, Balkan)
15 % R1a (Balto-Slavic, Germanic, Indo-Iranian)
7% R1b (Italo-Celtic, Germanic)
6.5%J2 (Greco-Anatolian,Mesopotamian, Caucasian)
6.5% I1(pre Germanic-Nordic)
3% T (Middle Eastern, East African)
2 % N1c1 Uralo-Finnic, Baltic, Siberian)
1.5% G (Caucasian, Greco-Anatolian)
1% Q(?)
0.5 % J1 (caucasian, mesopotamian, semitic, jewish)
0.5 % I2b (pre Celto-Germanic)
this is genetical statistics of Croats and serbs frome this site where you can see that Croats have around 42 % of dinaric genes while serbs have about 34 % “http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t868632-5/”
Another site claim that Croats have 37 % percent of dinaric genes while serbs have about 33 % !
There is url if you want to see “http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml”
If that is not enough then you can see this picture of western balkan which is concentration of dinaric race marked with shades of purple color soo you can see how stronger purple color is around area of Croatia and Bosnia and how much is lighter around serbia !
http://slovio.com/slavic-gene/Haplogroup_I.png
Anyway dinaric race represent ethnic Croats.Does who have i2a2 haplogroup are called “ethnic Croats” soo all does “dinarc serbs” are nothing more than serbised ortodox Croats mostly from eastern herzegovina.
eu7 (i2a2) is also called Croatian marker soo there is no such a think as dinaric serbs soo as i said before better next time informe yourself before you come here to leave comments !
What the hell are talking about? Do you even know what Dinaric means. It means having origin from Dinaric Alps. Most of Serbs have origin from Dinaric Alps while most of Croats dont. Croats are panonian, central european people similar to the Hungarians, Slovenians, Vojvodina Serbs, while Serbs are people of mountains. Thats why are people in Belgrade quite taller then people in Zagreb.
First of all you are probably never been in Zagreb so i tell you AGAIN don’t talk about something that you are not familiar with.Second of all Zagreb is not only Croatian city.Croatian people on avreage have about 10 % more dinaric genes then serbs so they can not be taller then Croats no matter how much you want to prove that.Third of all dinaric race is strongest in dinaric regions of (Lika, Dalmatia, Herzegovina) and from 6 century until today only Croats live in does areas.Just becouse you convert does ortodox Croats from eastern herzegovina into serbs that doesn’t mean that you are somehow suddenly “more dinaric than Croats” !
Samo zato jer su ti Hrvati poklali i protjerali pun kurac familije i nabili time komplekse ka i 90% ostalih srba to nemora da znači da imaš pravo da lažeš i da pišeš neke budalaštine koje nemaju nikakog jebenog smisla sa stvarnošću samo kako bi ponizia Hrvate i srbe pokaza boljima od njih.Šta ti misliš da je ovde neko budala pa da nemore provjerit te informacije koje ovde ostavljaš.Koga ti zajebavaš sine moj katolički.U prošlom postu pišeš “no serbs are taller then Croats becouse they are much more dinaric” iako u stvarnosti Hrvati imaju 10 % više dinarskih gena od sprda.Rađe više nemoj da ostavljaš komentare ovde jer ispa si glup ka kurac a ispast ćeš još gluplji nastaviš li se prepirat u vezi nečega za šta i sam znaš da nisi u pravu !
Naprotiv druze moj pokatoliceni, moja porodica ima dugu tradiciju klanja Srpskog otpada zvanog
hrvati.
I will try one more time, most of today Serbs have origins from Dinaric Alps(Montenegro, Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Lika, western Serbia,parts of Bosnia) while most of Croats dont. I have been in pretty much all of Croatia and outside of Dalmatia people are rather short. And Dalmatinas are in reality jus like 1/5 of total number of Croats.
Average height in croatian army is 180.5 cm while average height measured in Vojvodina(Where shortest Serbs live) is 182 cm. Enough said. Link to the studyhttp://www.scielo.cl/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0717-95022013000100043
Sad malo kad bolje razmislim 99% Dinarskih hrvata su produkt gladnih godina pa tvoji kompleksi i nisu iznenadjujuci.
I telling you again there is no dinaric serbs.Dinaric genes belong to Croatians.Arent you servs considered your self slavic nation.Arent you russian wannabes asslickers ortodox brothers ?
What a fuck you have with dinaric genes..Arent you origin from siberia like you talk whole your hystori before you make blood test.Does serbs who have origins from dinaric alpas are actualy Croatian bastards from world war 2.Just becouse we rape couple of milion serbian women that doesnt mean that you are dinaric.You are slavic who was raped by dinaric.
http://www.averageheight.co/average-male-height-by-country
Here is growht chart of avreage male height around the world.Even does slovenian fagots are taller then you !
Tvoja porodica ima dugu tradiciju logorovanja po ustaškim koncentracijskim kampovima di su ti muški dio familije imali tradiciju da kopaju kanale a ženski dio je imo zadaću da rađa ortodoxne Hrvate ili kako ih ti voliš nazivat “dinaric serbs” jebo ti ja mater srpsku =U= usta dok ti niz grlo teče moja ustaška sperma gusta !
182 in novi sad, true but they were students, normally taller than other categories. Croats are a little bit taller than serbs and lighter.
If all does researches and pictures which i post here not enough too shut your lying crap then lets see another reaserch more about bosnia since you mentioned bosnian origins.In bosnia live 3 ethnic group Croats, bosniaks and serbs.Among these three nations Croats have 71.1 % of dinaric genes, bosniaks have 43.5 % and serbs 30.9 %.
here is link : http://i.imgur.com/Iq1Jwki.png
So that means that even does turkish bastard in bosnia have more dinaric genes than you, not to mentioned comparasion between Croats and serbs.As you write in one of your lying posts i would correct you a little bit and replay “No, Croats are taller than serbs becouse they are much more dinaric” !
Next time give some recognized researches by proffesional genetics becouse nobody want to hear your personal oppinion based by your own wrong conclusions !
Lol, dude you have some issues. . Haplogrups dont have anything with dinaric origin. Every research will show that Serbs are much more dinaric then croats, who are more panonian, central european people. Average height in your country is 180.5 cm, while average height in region of Vojvodina(where shortest Serbs live) is 182cm. Image
http://www.scielo.cl/fbpe/img/ijmorphol/v31n1/art43_t4.jpg
Also
http://www.heightdb(dot)com/human-height-by-country
We are much better in tall people sports like basketball, volleyball and croats are better in football and other short people sports(although serbian football team is constantly tallest in the world). Your tallest athletes are usually of serbian origin, also tallest members of your government are Serbs.
Croatian girls who come here to party on weekends always say how tall and strong us Serbs are.
Accept that you are just not Dinaric as us. Only Montenegros, if we count them as separate nation, are more Dinaric then Serbs.
Bosnian muslims are also quite tall, bit taller the Croats and bit shorter then Serbs.
Actualy Croats are more dinaric then Serbs.Dinaric race is strongest in Bosnia and Herzegovina which means that they are tallest.Then Croatia is second and after that come Serbia and Montenegro !
First of all Croatians are much better in sports than serbs.Everebody know that, even BBC ” http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22338370”
Don’t start another pointless topic like with dinaric origin.About serbian basketball, arent you loose last time 2 matches in one day in belegrade and in Zagreb against Croats.it’s stupid that you mentioning serbian basketball as prove that you are taller than Croats when Croatian basketball team is tallest in the europe, avreage 203,6 cm !
“https://www.stat.si/eng/novica_prikazi.aspx?id=5701”
Even serbian women knows that serbs are inferior compared to Croats and this is why serbian women loose their virginity with Croatians !
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Lq6sEpooQ”
For all does who don’t speak Croatian this is story about serbian girl who was in relationship 8 months with serbian man and she was still virgin.Then she decided to go with her friends in Croatia on vacation and here she meet this Croatian guy and she give him virginity in two days after she meet him.Its not first time that this was happening.Every year serbian women come to Croatia and most of them don’t even come back to serbia but rather meet some Croatian guy and get married and give a birth to Croatian children.This is something that chavabanga and rest of serbs who was ceated by serbian girlfriend with Croatian men don’t like so they come here on the net and start trolling Croats to make them less miserable !
Lol, dude what a fuck are you talking about.I show you five researches and even one picture where you can see that dinaric gene is 10 % bigger in Croatian population in Croatia than in serbian population in serbia and than you start talking crap about some origins from bosnia and then i show you researcher where i show you that bosnian Croats have more than double dinaric genes than bosnian serb.And after all that you start lying AGAIN ant talking about shortest vojvodina serbs that are 182cm on avreage while in reality they are 176 cm on avreage
http://postimg.org/image/6o9ze7ttx/ “http://www.doiserbia.nb.rs/(A(KnoyDYfYyQEkAAAAZTIwYTVlZTMtMWJmZS00ZTQ1LTk1NjYtZGI5ZjllMDYyZjE2cg7Uu1djOdEQauqW-0agL73pKKA1))/img/doi/0352-4906/2008/0352-49060814027P.pdf”
And after you loose all your arguments about “dinaric serbs” you start bullshiting that you faggots are better in sports than Croats and that our athletes are serbs even if everebody knows that best serbians athletes are of Croatian origin like novak djokovic or vanja udovcic or for example ana ivanovic.Whole world say that Croatia is most athletic country in the whole world and than you start talking crap that you are better in basketball where we last time in one day defeate you in belegrade and zagreb.It would be shame for me to even mentioning serbian voleybal and compare that faggot “sport” with Croatian footbal, handbal, mma, k-1, boxing, hockey, gimnastic, athletich, waterpolo………….itd.
See what english have to say which contry produce best athletes in the world :
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22338370
By the way Croats have tallest basketbal team on avreage they have also tallest handbal team they have also tallest tennis player in history.Tallest man on balkan ever recorded was Croat Grgo Kusić 237 cm.Not that we are much taller than you but we are also much heavely builded which is why Croats dominate serbs in sports and wars for whole history.You see if you are that tall and strong like you lying that you are than serbian women wouldn’t goo to Croatia to loose their virginity, write ? :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Lq6sEpooQ
for all does who dont understand Croatian there is serbian girl on serbian radio who apologise in public becouse she was cheated on her serbian boyfriend with Croatian guy.She was with serb 8 months in relationship and she wouldn’t give him pussy and then when she was go with her friends on vacation in Croatia she meated this TALL AND STRONG CROAT and loose her virginiti in two days after she meated him. Soo here is proof of dinaric serbian origin.They women go to Croatia get pregnant by Croats and come back in serbia born child and say they stupid small dick coward boyfriends that they are fathers.This tradition is known for long time that serbian women love Croatian men.Most of serbian sportists are of exact same origin.serbian women go to Croatia and get pregnant go back to serbia and give a birth to athlete like with vanja udovcic case where his mother was meet his father in vacation in Croatia and little Franjo vas born.During his childhood he was beaten up in school becouse serbs are learned from young age to hate they biological fathers Croats and everething about Croatia so nobody was like his name so he was decided to change into vanja and today he play for serbia even if he was go out from Croatian balls like most serbian athletes,There is also nikola karabatic a handbal french player same case serbian mother go in vacation in Croatia meet this tall and athletic Croat and next……………little nikola was cranck out from Croatian balls and 9 months after that in Nis serbia another athlete was born.Same with serbian politics while biggest chetnik voislav seselj is come out from Croatian balls.Or even president of republika srpska milorad dodik who is also Croatian bastard like chavabanga.There are storyes that even today serbian president is of Croatian origin since nikolic is pure Croatian surename.
Croats are also taller than montenegrins.They are on avreage 183 cm while Croats are 186.After all montenegrins are also ethnic Croats like 35 percent of serbian population soo dont hate your fathers chavabanga.One more think chavabanga.Say to your mother if she want to give a birth to athlete this time she need to pay for my sperm !
chavabanga seriously, tell to your mother that 6.8 beast of the man is ready to impregnant another serbian woman.Say to your mother that giant Croat is ready to make you a brother which would be famous athete one day like all other children of serbian mothers and Croatian fathers !
Lol, dude what are you talking about.I show you five researches and even one picture where you can see that dinaric gene is 10 % bigger in Croatian population in Croatia than in serbian population in serbia and than you start talking crap about some origins from bosnia and then i show you researcher where i show you that bosnian Croats have more than double dinaric genes than bosnian serb.And after all that you start lying AGAIN ant talking about shortest vojvodina serbs that are 182cm on avreage while in reality they are 176 cm on avreage
http://postimg.org/image/6o9ze7ttx/ “http://www.doiserbia.nb.rs/(A(KnoyDYfYyQEkAAAAZTIwYTVlZTMtMWJmZS00ZTQ1LTk1NjYtZGI5ZjllMDYyZjE2cg7Uu1djOdEQauqW-0agL73pKKA1))/img/doi/0352-4906/2008/0352-49060814027P.pdf”
And after you loose all your arguments about “dinaric serbs” you start bullshiting that you faggots are better in sports than Croats and that our athletes are serbs even if everebody knows that best serbians athletes are of Croatian origin like novak djokovic or vanja udovcic or for example ana ivanovic.Whole world say that Croatia is most athletic country in the whole world and than you start talking crap that you are better in basketball where we last time in one day defeate you in belegrade and zagreb.It would be shame for me to even mentioning serbian voleybal and compare that faggot “sport” with Croatian footbal, handbal, mma, k-1, boxing, hockey, gimnastic, athletich, waterpolo………….itd.
See what english have to say which contry produce best athletes in the world :
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22338370
By the way Croats have tallest basketbal team on avreage they have also tallest handbal team they have also tallest tennis player in history.Tallest man on balkan ever recorded was Croat Grgo Kusić 237 cm.Not that we are much taller than you but we are also much heavely builded which is why Croats dominate serbs in sports and wars for whole history.You see serbian women goo to Croatia to loose their virginity ! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Lq6sEpooQ
for all does who dont understand Croatian there is serbian girl on serbian radio who apologise in public becouse she was cheated on her serbian boyfriend with Croatian guy.She was with serb 8 months in relationship and she wouldn’t give him pussy and then when she was go with her friends on vacation in Croatia she meated this TALL AND STRONG CROAT and loose her virginiti in two days after she meated him. Soo here is proof of dinaric serbian origin.They women go to Croatia get pregnant by Croats and come back in serbia born child and say to they coward boyfriends that they are fathers.This tradition is known for long time that serbian women love Croatian men.Most of serbian sportists are of exact same origin.serbian women go to Croatia and get pregnant go back to serbia and give a birth to athlete like with vanja udovcic case where his mother was meet his father in vacation in Croatia and little Franjo vas born.During his childhood he was beaten up in school becouse serbs are learned from young age to hate they biological fathers Croats and everething about Croatia so nobody was like his name so he was decided to change into vanja and today he play for serbia even if he was go out from Croatian balls like most serbian athletes,There is also nikola karabatic a handbal french player same case serbian mother go in vacation in Croatia meet this tall and athletic Croat and next……………little nikola was cranck out from Croatian balls and 9 months after that in Nis serbia another athlete was born.Same with serbian politics while biggest nationalist voislav seselj is come out from Croatian balls.Or even president of republika srpska milorad dodik who is also Croatian sperm like chavabanga.There are storyes that even today serbian president is of Croatian origin since nikolic is pure Croatian surename.
Croats are also taller than montenegrins.They are on avreage 183 cm while Croats are 186.After all montenegrins are also ethnic Croats like 35 percent of serbian population soo dont hate your fathers chavabanga.One more think chavabanga.Say to your mother if she want to give a birth to athlete this time she need to pay for my sperm !
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Lol, dude i show you five researches and even one picture where you can see that dinaric gene is 10 % bigger in Croatian population in Croatia than in serbian population in serbia and than you start talking crap about some origins from bosnia and then i show you researcher where i show you that bosnian Croats have more than double dinaric genes than bosnian serb.And after all that you start lying AGAIN and talking about shortest vojvodina serbs that are 182cm on avreage while in reality they are 176 cm on avreage.
http://postimg.org/image/6o9ze7ttx/ “http://www.doiserbia.nb.rs/(A(KnoyDYfYyQEkAAAAZTIwYTVlZTMtMWJmZS00ZTQ1LTk1NjYtZGI5ZjllMDYyZjE2cg7Uu1djOdEQauqW-0agL73pKKA1))/img/doi/0352-4906/2008/0352-49060814027P.pdf”
And after you loose all your arguments about “dinaric serbs” you start bullshiting that you faggots are better in sports than Croats even if everebody knows that best serbians athletes are of Croatian origin like novak djokovic or vanja udovcic or for example ana ivanovic.Whole world say that Croatia is most athletic country in the whole world and than you start talking crap that you are better in basketball where we last time in one day defeate you in belegrade and zagreb.It would be shame for me to even mentioning serbian voleybal and compare that faggot “sport” with Croatian footbal, handbal, mma, k-1, boxing, hockey, gimnastic, athletich, waterpolo………….itd.
See what english have to say which contry produce best athletes in the world :
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22338370
By the way Croats have tallest basketbal team on avreage they have also tallest handbal team they have also tallest tennis player in history.Tallest man on balkan ever recorded was Croat Grgo Kusić 237 cm.Not that we are much taller than you but we are also much heavely builded which is why Croats dominate serbs in sports and wars for whole history.You see serbian women goo to Croatia to loose their virginity ! :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Lq6sEpooQ
for all does who dont understand Croatian there is serbian girl on serbian radio who apologise in public becouse she was cheated on her serbian boyfriend with Croatian guy.She was with serb 8 months in relationship and she wouldn’t give him pussy and then when she was go with her friends on vacation in Croatia she meated this TALL AND STRONG CROAT and loose her virginiti in two days after she meated him. Soo here is proof of dinaric serbian origin.They women go to Croatia get pregnant by Croats and come back in serbia born child and say to they coward boyfriends that they are fathers.This tradition is known for long time that serbian women love Croatian men.Most of serbian sportists are of exact same origin.serbian women go to Croatia and get pregnant go back to serbia and give a birth to athlete like with vanja udovcic case where his mother was meet his father in vacation in Croatia and little Franjo vas born.During his childhood he was beaten up in school becouse serbs are learned from young age to hate they biological fathers Croats and everething about Croatia so nobody was like his name so he was decided to change into vanja and today he play for serbia even if he was go out from Croatian balls like most serbian athletes,There is also nikola karabatic a handbal french player same case serbian mother go in vacation in Croatia meet this tall and athletic Croat and next……………little nikola was cranck out from Croatian balls and 9 months after that in Nis serbia another athlete was born.There are storyes that even today serbian president is cranck out from Croatian balls !
Croats are also taller than montenegrins.They are on avreage 183 cm while Croats are 186.After all montenegrins are also ethnic Croats like 35 percent of serbian population soo dont hate your fathers chavabanga.One more think chavabanga.Say to your mother if she want to give a birth to athlete this time she need to pay for my sperm !
Lol, dude i show you five researches and even one picture where you can see that dinaric gene is 10 % bigger in Croatian population in Croatia than in serbian population in serbia and than you start talking crap about some origins from bosnia and then i show you researcher where i show you that bosnian Croats have more than double dinaric genes than bosnian serb.And after all that you start lying AGAIN and talking about shortest vojvodina serbs that are 182cm on avreage while in reality they are 176 cm on avreage.
http://postimg.org/image/6o9ze7ttx/ “http://www.doiserbia.nb.rs/(A(KnoyDYfYyQEkAAAAZTIwYTVlZTMtMWJmZS00ZTQ1LTk1NjYtZGI5ZjllMDYyZjE2cg7Uu1djOdEQauqW-0agL73pKKA1))/img/doi/0352-4906/2008/0352-49060814027P.pdf”
And after you loose all your arguments about “dinaric serbs” you start bullshiting that you faggots are better in sports than Croats even if everebody knows that best serbians athletes are of Croatian origin like novak djokovic or vanja udovcic or for example ana ivanovic.Whole world say that Croatia is most athletic country in the whole world and than you start talking crap that you are better in basketball where we last time in one day defeate you in belegrade and zagreb.It would be shame for me to even mentioning serbian voleybal and compare that faggot “sport” with Croatian footbal, handbal, mma, k-1, boxing, hockey, gimnastic, athletich, waterpolo………….itd.
See what english have to say which contry produce best athletes in the world :
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22338370
First of all Croatians are much better in sports than serbs.Everebody know that, even BBC ” http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22338370”
Don’t start another pointless topic like with dinaric origin.About serbian basketball, arent you loose last time 2 matches in one day in belegrade and in Zagreb against Croats.it’s stupid that you mentioning serbian basketball as prove that you are taller than Croats when Croatian basketball team is tallest in the europe, avreage 203,6 cm !
“https://www.stat.si/eng/novica_prikazi.aspx?id=5701”
Even serbian women knows that serbs are inferior compared to Croats and this is why serbian women loose their virginity with Croatians !
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Lq6sEpooQ”
For all does who don’t speak Croatian this is story about serbian girl who was in relationship 8 months with serbian man and she was still virgin.Then she decided to go with her friends in Croatia on vacation and here she meet this Croatian guy and she give him virginity in two days after she meet him.Its not first time that this was happening.Every year serbian women come to Croatia and most of them don’t even come back to serbia but rather meet some Croatian guy and get married and give a birth to Croatian children.This is something that chavabanga and rest of serbs who was ceated by serbian girlfriend with Croatian men don’t like so they come here on the net and start trolling Croats to make them less miserable !
First of all Croatians are much better in sports than serbs.Everebody know that, even BBC ” http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22338370”
Don’t start another pointless topic like with dinaric origin.About serbian basketball, arent you loose last time 2 matches in one day in belegrade and in Zagreb against Croats.it’s stupid that you mentioning serbian basketball as prove that you are taller than Croats when Croatian basketball team is tallest in the europe, avreage 203,6 cm !
“https://www.stat.si/eng/novica_prikazi.aspx?id=5701”
Even serbian women knows that serbs are inferior compared to Croats and this is why serbian women loose their virginity with Croatians !
“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Lq6sEpooQ”
For all does who don’t speak Croatian this is story about serbian girl who was in relationship 8 months with serbian man and she was still virgin.Then she decided to go with her friends in Croatia on vacation and here she meet this Croatian guy and she give him virginity in two days after she meet him.Its not first time that this was happening.Every year serbian women come to Croatia and most of them don’t even come back to serbia but rather meet some Croatian guy and get married and give a birth to Croatian children.This is something that chavabanga and rest of serbs who was ceated by serbian girlfriend with Croatian men don’t like so they come here on the net and start trolling Croats to make them less miserable !
Wow, dude like I said you really have some issues. Try to make some more fake accounts to convince yourself in that hihihi.
Like I said our sport teams are always tallest on tournaments in every sport, even on Olympics we were the tallest.
And who are you trying to lie, everyone in ex-yu knows that croatian girls have thing for Serbs. Its even some kind of urban legend over here. We Serbs always make fun of you Croats because of that. But its no wonder, just compare us tall,strong, macho Serbs to you, small, gayish Croats with Justin Bieber haircuts, and fag accent. Belgrade nightclubs on weekends are full of croatian girls in search for weekend fun.
Not single reality show cant end without some 2m tall Serb bang some Croatian chick.
Like this,lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_wpeUsqhdU
Razumem ja i tebe srusili smo vam pola zemlje sa 5% snage, silovali vam majke, sestre i zene dok su vam ocevi molili za milost iz podruma, a danas mlade hrvatice prelaze svakog viukenda par stotina kilometara da osete veliku cetnicku kitu. To boli, mora da boli.
And dude stop copy my own posts and sending under my account you little sick OWNED cunt !
Razumim i ja tebe kopile moje katoličko.Razumim ja da je bilo teško gledat kako ti kuća gori zajedno sa ostatkom familije u njoj dok je tuđman palia krajinu.Pogotovo je bilo to sve teško gledat pored pički od vaši očeva koji su uplakani na leđima rašireni nogu u zraku ka zadnje drolje molili za život dok su im u to vrime ustaše klale dicu i oplođivali im žene “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYWl2hq34Fw#start=0:00;end=4:53;cycles=-1;autoreplay=false;showoptions=false”
Tako je i tvoja mater uplakana i rašireni nogu podignuti u zrak molila za milost.Nju smo za razliku od tvog čače poštedili.Nju nismo zaklali.Samo ju je čitavo Hrvatsko puće silovalo od knina pa sve do drine.Ako ništa bar smo ti napravili lipog katoličkog brata tako da bar jednu lipu uspomenu imaš na Hrvatsku.Što je najgore od svega tvoja mater nezna kome točno treba da pošalje račun za alimentaciju.Ja joj preporučam da dođe nazad u Hrvatsku pa da ide od kuće do kuće i skuplja spermu pa nek je poslje nosi na analizu.Evo more kod mene prvog da se uputi.A more prvo da izdrka kurac i onim Hrvatskim vojnicima i vatrogascima koji su ošli u srbiju da izvlače one jadnike iz potopljeni kuća dok vi srbi pljačkate napuštene kuće.Da mi je samo znat kako se osjećaju one izbjeglice iz krajine koje danas iz potopljeni kuća izvlače iste one ustaše koje su im prije dvadeset godina klali dicu i jebali im žene palili kuće i zapljenjivali im imovinu
Serbians have much more Dinaric genes than Croatians.Thats the fact.croats killed over 1 million Serbs during world war 1 and 2 in the Dalmatia area.croats under the vatican did forcefull conversion of orthodox Serbs to catholicism.So many modern croats are actually Serbs.Regarding the montenegro you can see by the facts and just asking people.Over 70% of montenegrin population are Serbians.Serbian giant Petar Petrovic Njegos who was borned and raised in todays Montenegro said for himself that he is Serbian not ‘montenegrin'(do a research on him).He was the tallest of that modern world at the time(225 +).I have many friends who were banished from their Dalmatian lands,many many and they are all 185+.I myself was born in Serbian city called Dubrovnik.Saint Vlaho-the protector of Dubrovnik was a Orthodox monk,not catholic.That speaks for itself.Its not just the height that determins Dinaric race.Its the whole round genes.From Head shape,to your caracter and many many other things.Serbs always had much better results in every single sport than croats.Lets not forget that croats banished over 500,000 Serbians from modern Dalmatia.Regarding Bosnia things are quite quite simple.There is Serbian Republic whithin bosnian federation,and that Serbian republic is 49% of the Bosnian federation land overall and about 45% of the whole Bosnian population are Serbians.So the things are quite simple.The most Dinaric blood in their veins have Serbains no doubt,Because Serbians are almost majority in every single of this states except croatia which did unhuman genosides and banished so many people from Serbian lands of Dalmatia and Krajina.The facts speak for itself.
Dude you can’t even imagine how you serbs sound retarded with all does same crap which you repeate over and over and over again.So your conclusions that serbs are more dinaric than Croats and that they are better in sports is based on fact that we make genocide against serbs.What kind of conclusion is that.What genocide by Croats against serbs have with dinaric genes and sports ?
You are kind of retarded like dude before.I really dont know what to say anymore.I did post here about 5, 6 researches and even upload picture where you can see that dinaric dna is much more dominant under Croatian population than serbian but you still like dude before come here with same bullshit leaving comments based by your own oppinion !
And about which forcefule conversion of chatolic serbs you talking about.Didnt even father of serbian nation (stefan nemanja) was christened in chatolich church when he was born ?
Didint stefan nemanja was chatolic during most of his life after he was converted himself on ortodox and after that following by his example all other serbs was did same think.Leave chatolic church and converted in ortodox.So about which forceful converted ortodox serbs you talking about.There doesn’t exist something like “serbian nation”.Name serb in middle age was title of Croatian citizens of a lower order.In past serbs was Croatian slaves but during ages they become independent nation mostly from ethnic Croats.Even today one of the most nationalistic serbs like voislav šešelj is of Croatian origin.Or milorad dodik man who rule fascist country republika srpska is also of Croatian origin but still he wasnt have problem with expelling his own people from their historical land.One of the most famous writers in serbian literature ivo andric was also of Croatian origin.Today serbian president tomislav nikolic not that he just have one of the most common Croatian names but he also have noble Croatian surename.You should know all does thinks before you start leaving such a retarded comments !
Here is url of site where you can see information about I2 haplogroup (dinaric genes)
“http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml”
There is screen shot that i took so you dont need to bother with reading all other informations
“http://postimg.org/image/pmjzx8ha7/”
There is even picture where you can see concentration of dinaric gen with shades of pink color
http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup_I2a.gif
You can see that Croats have significantly more dinaric genes than serbs.Specialy bosnian Croats where they have 71 % of dinaric genes while bosnian serbs have around 30 %.That is becouse serbs are very much mixed with turks unlike Croats.That is why we are taller and more light pigmented than you.Taht is a fact my friend.I dont know why are you serbs so insecure and always try to present yourself better than Croats in any area.Why you just dont want to admit that Croats are just genetically more dominnant ?
I’ve used that website for research before. That website has some ethnic bias tendencies.
I show more than one researche where you can see similar results.I dont even know why they would have tendencie lying about something like that.What they can get with lying about which ethnic group have more i2a2.That does not make sense.Its well known fact that i2a2 haplogroup is significantly dominant among Croatians than any other ethnic group.In fact most genetics call i2a2 Croatian marker.Enough said.Real serbs dont have anything with dinaric race.They considered themselves slavic and they was come from siberia on balkan.Dinaric serbs are converted Croats !
And just for the record tallest balkan ever wasn’t njegos but Croat Grgo Kusic 237 cm.
Oh come on now – I’m American and I’ve been to Serbia and to say “some towns you rarely meet a man under 6’3″ aka 190cm” – unless that town has 200 people and they’re all related to 1 of 3 families who happen to all have tall genes, that’s utterly not true.
I am 6’2 (woman) – aka 188cm and was taller than most people, man or woman in Belgrade. I will say I didn’t feel like quite as much the giant as I am at home in the US. I did run into probably a dozen women as tall as me and certainly a buttload of men as tall as me (but pretty rare for any to be more than a couple cms taller). Granted I do have exclusive (first generation American immigrant) German and Scandinavian roots to give those Serbs a run for their money.
But there were a number of shorties 160cm (5’3) and plenty of typical 170cm (5’7) folks. It’s just that there were less shorties, and more typical and lots more tall than in the US. In other words, the average was just shifted up it wasn’t that every other person was a giant.
They commented on my height, told me “You are tall” ste visoki quite frequently. And “oh you’re definitely still very tall, even for us. You must be very tall compared to your fellow Americans”
My rough guess would be the AVERAGE man was about 6′ – 183cm and the AVERAGE woman was about 5’8 – 173cm.
I’m from Croatia, and last year a measurement of average height the population was done. The average male Croat is 176 cm (5’9 1/4”) tall while the average female Croat 163 cm. (5’4”).
Avreage height in Croatia is 180,5 cm for population of 18 years old.For 19 year old generation avreage height in Croatia is 180.9 cm and for population of 25 years old avreage height is 182.5 cm or 6 “.Here is the link :
http://www.vecernji.hr/moje-zdravlje/vise-necemo-rasti-u-visinu-sad-rastemo-samo-u-sirinu-960033
In Croatia avreage height of 176 cm was 50 years ago.Croats are second tallest nation in the whole world.Only netherlands and montenegrins are taller about 0,5 cm !
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According to two old Sport Illustrated articles from 1979 & 1981, former NBAer Steve Stipanovich is of Serbian heritage.
http://www.si.com/vault/1979/02/19/823378/they-fill-a-tall-order-the-scramble-for-talented-7-footers-centers-on-three-giant-high-schoolers
http://www.si.com/vault/1981/12/21/826235/reverberation-of-a-gunshot-mizzou-center-steve-stipanovich-wounded-himself-a-year-ago-and-then-made-up-a-tale-hes-just-now-living-down
Yes, Croatian, Montenegrins , Serbian and Herzegovinas are extraordinary tall ethnic. I visited some parts of that place. I saw many 2 meter people, even a lot of 210 cm tall youths there. I went to one of local high school in Herzegovina, 1 out of 30 boys are over 200 cm. I have never seen a bunch of tall people in other nations.
Serbians and Croatian are different. We’ve blended over the last 1600 years or so and it’s become harder to tell us apart.
Serbians are originally from the Dynamic Alps region. We we’re there during the Greek Empire. We we’re there before. That region is one of the most fought over areas of land in world history and as a group, we serbs were forced out of that region from time to time. (Romans, Avars, Turks, etc).
When rome took control of that region roughly in the year 100. We we’re taken in by the Russian Empire and given land, which was know at the time as Bela-Serbia (White Serbia, just like Belarus, White Russia). (southern poland, western Czech). We are an ancient Warrior Tribe and we are the biggest and strongest race on earth. The Russian’s felt we deserved to be protected, and they felt we could be useful in helping to protect the Russian Empire from Western Empires. We have a connection through out language to this day.
During the fall of the Roman empire, the last emperor, Augustus, invited the Serb’s Back to their native land to protect the Dying Roman empire from the Avars.
The Croatian’s came with us. They are originally North Eastern European descent.
No one is better than the other. Serbian’s have just been here longer.
To those that disagree, pick up a book and educate yourself.
Croatian’s have only been in the Dynamic Alps region since the year 400 AD. Before that, they we’re basically what Southern Poles or Wester Czech’s look like now.
Croatian’s Hitched a ride with Serbian’s when they headed back to their Native Land during the fall of the Roman Empire in 400AD. Literally, they were looking for greener pastures.
Croatian’s are often lighter in their skin tone, hair colour, and eye colour. Serbian’s & Montenegrins are Darker in their skin tone, hair colour, and eye colour. I would go so far as to say that people within Czech Republic, Slovakia and Southern Poland who have very dark hair colour and skin colour, coupled with well above average height and weight, are probably a descendent of a paternal Serbian bloodline when we lived in “Bela-Serbia” (Southern Poland, Wester Czech).
Ex. Jaromir Jagr or Zdeno Chara look nothing like people who are traditionally from that region.
Serbian’s are the Tallest and Strongest (pound for pound) in the world because we are the most Genetically diverse group on the planet. Forget African Americans. This is not a 30-40 year phenomenom. This has always been the case. And it has to do with the geographical location we lived in over thousands of years and the particular nature of Serbian culture. The parameters of our Environment. Nature + Nurture.
1. Highly productive agricultural land. If not the most productive in the world. One of the most fought after regions in human history, which led to the Ebs and Flows of different groups occupying that region over Centuries. Adding to genetic Diversity as we re-claimed our land and took the temporary occupiers women.
2. We’re undoubtedly Tall & Strong, but we’re also smart. Serbian’s tend to be tied with bull-headedness, but history shows the opposite. We were a warrior culture that understood when we were defeated and moved in order to secure the survival of our people. Adding to our genetic diversity as we interbred with our new region’s inhabitants. Rather than standing tall, holding your home and being demolished by a larger army like most Warrior cultures would. Stubbornness would have killed us off long ago.
3. We are a Warrior Culture. Our culture grooms & covets Size & Strength. We’ve been tested over thousands of years. A Paternal Lineage Culture. Wherever we went, we were so physically dominating that relocating was an actual possibility. Most cultures would stay put and go down with the ship, or simply have no other options. Moving somewhere new was always an option when no one group could really match up to you Man to Man.
Diversity is the key when it comes to Height & Size.
Croatian’s are incredibly diverse genetically, but before the year 400Ad, you weren’t, in comparison to the Serbs. You are one of the most genetically diverse groups on the planet, but not the most.
Croatian’s & Serbian’s have been Brothers for 1600 years. And Croatian’s have benefitted as a result, because we interbred with you. Serbian’s as well, but to a lesser extent, because we brought more “new” genetic material to the dance.
But, we have different starting points. Serbian’s were in that region, moving when needed, mixing and physically dominating any group that stood in their way for 1000’s of years before we ever crossed paths with you Czech’s (Croatian’s).
Before 400AD, People of Croatian descent, had absolutely nothing to do with Dalmatia and the Dynaric Alps Region. You came down with us and left your homeland and people behind for greener pastures.
1600 Years is a long time, but stop latching on to our story and be proud of where you ACTUALLY are from (XXX).
Before 400AD, you we’re Czech, deal with it and be proud of it.
This website is pure propaganda, this website hidden facts! Here’s the truth: World Atlas:
1. Bosnia & Herzegovina (5 feet, 10 inches)
Bosnia & Herzegovina enjoys the top spot as having the world’s tallest people, at 5 feet, 10 inches of average height across both genders. The mix of a Mediterranean climate and cool, northern, temperate weather must have spurted the growth of these gentle people. The cuisine, which is dependent on light dishes and spices, could be another reason for the tall statures seen there. Beef, lamb, cheeses, and vegetables, complemented by great wine, are also part of the diet that must have turned on the height gene to the max. It seems that Balkan countries have the same height advantages as Northern Europe.