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Review On The P3 Portable Back Stretcher From Teeter Hang Ups

About a year ago I started to search online to find if there were any devices sold on Amazon or Walmart which would have the ability to stretch out the back and decompress the spine. This idea of just stretching out the back, or most specifically the lower back area, was one way which I believed would be effective in treating certain types of back pain as well as increase height. For years the idea of using something like a simple traction machine was promoted by many people in the community as effective.

Product Specifications

It is constructed of aircraft-grade aluminum making it lighter and easy to transport
It realigns your spine and improve your posture by stretching the entire skeleton from the shoulder blades to the ankles
Relieves back pain & increase the flexibility of the joints too.
Contoured foot supports secure the ankles into position
Commonly lengthens skeleton by 1 to 1-1/2 inches to increase flexibility
Folds to 20 x 11.5 x 3.5 inches (W x H x D)
Total weight: 5.5 pounds
You adjust it by pushing firmly with hands on the leverage handles
Entire kit includes a DVD instructional video with five 10-15 minute healthy back exercises.
Decompresses the discs to re-hydrate for better shock absorption and reduced back pain.

The P3 Portable Back Stretcher is Available From Here

Full Review

As a person who is now in my late 20s and almost 30, I have noticed certain types of muscle soreness in my lower back area. In fact, about 5 years ago when I was actively swimming a lot and stretching to gain height, I bought myself another type of product by Teeter Hang Ups, an inversion table, from the local Dick’s Sporting Goods Store. It was great since I had some success. Now, I wanted to look back at these devices, for both back pain relief and effectiveness in increasing height.

This product was the first one that we found. This product which is sold as the “Teeter Hang Ups P3 Portable Back Stretcher” is probably the first product which we found which blatantly states that it can increase the height of a person who uses the machine by a certain limit.

So does it make you taller from stretching out your bones?

The exact phrase that the sellers use in the product specifications states the following “Commonly lengthens skeleton by 1-1.5 Inches…”. If it works on the skeleton, it is stretching the person who plans to use it slightly past which is considered possible if they just did stretching of the back themselves. We’ve seen only a small handful cases of people who have managed to stretch themselves past even half an inch. The maximum I’ve heard of from any case was 3 cms, but that is only 1.25 Inches. This product is claiming to be able to do even more, upwards of 4 cms.

The problem is not that it doesn’t work, or that it give us what they promise. Based on what we’ve seen with rolfing, it is most likely work in giving at least 1 cm of increase in height if an adult uses it consistently for over 3 months.

What about back pain? Does it help treat back pain?

As for the back pain, it probably would have more success. However, with almost all traction devices, the pain it relieves could mean that it might cause a physiological change which would mean that the back can be adjusted so that the pain could be much worst if the problem is aggravated over again in a later time. We do believe that this product can treat back pain, but realigning the spine/vertebrate.

However, we have to be very careful on what type of pain we are trying to treat. There are some back pain where using a traction device would have no effect. Make sure that one understands that tensile loading the IVDs (intervertebral discs) would have a beneficial effect of pain relief and consult a medical specialist, or at least a chiropractor.

So whether you are trying to treat back pain through disc decompression or looking for other benefits, this type of portable back stretcher called the P3 from Teeter Hang Ups has a good chance that it would work.

So what do other people think of this back stretching device?

Check out what other people are saying about it here

Note: There are two purposes to start doing product reviews like this, one of which is to see how effective and viable are the devices in stretching out the skeleton to increase height, and the other is to get some extra income from the website. I plan to now start doing a reviews on maybe a few dozen back stretching and IVD decompression products I’ve found on Walmart, Amazon, and other Health Related major websites to get some extra affiliate income stream going.

Why Warren Grayson’s Research Will Be Revolutionary For Height Increasing Using Stem Cells For Tissue Reconstructive Engineering – Breakthrough!

For a long time me (and maybe Tyler also) have been keeping track of the research done by Robert Tracy Ballock and Cory Xian since the research they’ve been doing have been very close to what we are hoping to accomplish as well. I have read over Ballock’s work and he definitely has some brilliant insights, and since 2001 he even got an award for succeeding in growing a growth plate!

Tyler had found a grant that Ballock had done in the Cleveland Clinic “GROWTH PLATE REGENERATION” (Project #:1R21AR061265-01A1) at the US Department of Health and Human Services. Ballock has been working on both repairing growth plates that are damaged as well as growth epiphyseal cartilage in vitro which can in implanted into into damaged growth plate areas. However, I am not sure at this time if he has been doing research to grow a completely whole growth plate to be implanted into a bone which has no cartilage left to work with.

Xian has also been doing amazing work and the paper “POTENTIALS AND CHALLENGES OF GROWTH PLATE REGENERATION USING EX VIVO EXPANDED MESENCHYMAL STEM CELLS OR MOBOLISING ENDOGENOUS PROGENITOR CELLS” shows that he was trying to do the same thing as Ballock for the same types of application.

Of course, their goals have never been for cosmetic reasons but for medical reasons. The main goal has always been to help young children with active growth plates who have suffered injuries. In that particular paper, Xian revealed that for large animals, it seems that using MSCs taken from the marrow, and then using TGF-Beta1 to differentiate the MSCs into chondrocytes to form cartilage that can work with the injured epiphyseal plate was not successful.

As is written in the abstract… “To date, no large animal studies have reported successful regeneration of injured growth plate cartilage using MSC…” There are however at least two successes, one of which might have proven the study by XIan wrong

Case #1: In one of my biggest posts, I had shown that this researcher in Oregon named Alsberg had been able to use RGB injected into scaffolds to get a bone-cartilage tissue to grow volumetrically. His research group was the first back in 2002 to succeed in getting a growth plate to grow.

Case #2: Then there was Lee with his team back in 2002 who showed that adeno-virus mediated gene of the IGF-1 into an autologous muscle scaffold did have a favorable effect on repairing injured growth plates. (From the study entitled “Muscle-based gene therapy and tissue engineering for treatment of growth plate injuries“) My guess is that Xian was referring to large animals, and Lee was looking at much smaller lab animals. We here understand fully the difficulty in getting any type of explant to work properly.

Both of them are working on similar projects, but I feel that the person who probably is further along in the research than both of them is Warren Grayson who is currently at the John’s Hopkins University School of Medicine (Click Here to see his Lab’s Research) .

I looked at Grayson’s research and his Ph. D. Thesis entitled “Reconstructing the In Vivo Environment for the Development of Tissue-Engineered Constructs from Human Mesenchymal Stem Cells” (Available from Clicking Here) and noted that his work at Florida State University is when he was working for his Ph. D. Is almost exactly what I’ve been hoping to do this coming year.

From my personal research, it seems that the primary problem with trying to re-implant excised growth plates into a new bone defect/area is vascularization. When Thomas/Hakker did research on this issue a few years ago looking at surgeons trying to transfer growth plate cartilage into areas where bone bridges were resected into young kids which stunted growth due to bone bridges, he has found that all the studies he had found had said the results were not good. Again and again the problem seems to go towards vascularization.

From what we remember about the cartilage, unlike almost all other tissues, the cartilages in general have an environment which makes the cells inside them have great difficulty in getting the right types of nutrients. To get the necessary nutrients, the chondrocytes require that the nutrients diffuse through to the cells. This means that the nutrients don’t have a clear pathway to get to the cells. Most other cells have capillaries which run right by them which supplies them with the nutrients in the blood. We know that there is at least three major groups of blood vessels that go to the long bones. You have two groups of blood vessels which supplies to the epiphysis or the ends of the bone but you also have one large group of vessels reaching the middle of the long bones, the metaphysis. The general held belief on how the growth plates get their nutrients currently is that the blood vessels going into the ends of the bone contribute to the overall longitudinal growth. There was even a study which showed that if a surgeon took an awl and disrupted the blood vessels in that are going into the metaphysis, there was a noticeable increase in the longitudinal growth. And that is where the problem lies. If you are going to be trying to explant a piece of cartilage you grew in the lab, and implant it in the defect area to the growth plate cartilage that is still left, there is very little guarantee that the blood vessels will ever get to this new foreign area. If there is no vascularization, then the cartilage won’t survive. It will turn into bone matter, which forms a bony bridge.

This is where I feel Grayson’s research is most likely to work out. Grayson’s research is completely skipping over the idea of trying to push two cartilage pieces together to make them work and hope that the blood vessels start to seep into the new implant. It might just be smarter to try to build up one entire cartilage part, which will be implanted next to bone tissue instead. It was shown that back in 2007 Grayson was given a grant to build a tissue engineered model of the growth plate.

Notice the last phrase about him above….. There have been at least 3 papers he has published which shows that he is closer to a real solution that both Ballock and Xian since he has been creating a epiphyseal cartilage like scaffold which can be re-implanted back into the bone defects. They are….

I have personally downloaded all of the following studies above in PDF form and placed them in a private folder for me to later go through. There was however one study which I wasn’t able to get for free, which is “Engineering anatomically shaped vascularized bone grafts with hASCs and 3D-printed PCL scaffolds“.

I have emailed Dr. Grayson to ask whether he can give me a copy of this particular article.

Update 3/25/2014: After asking him politely and telling Dr Grayson of my intent to do tissue engineering research, he was kind enough to send me a copy of the PDF for free after just a short time. I want to thank him greatly for that gesture.

The one about how he is using a 3-D Printer to print out bio tissue, specifically cartilage is extremely promising. I will need to go over his 4 main articles to see whether he has succeeded or not. I am guessing that after the 6-7 years since he go the grant, he has managed to succeed in getting at least half there.

So what does this all mean for the average person hoping to increase height as an adult?

Grayson’s research may find ways to grow large sized epiphyseal cartilage which would work as an implant. He might have been able to figure out how to get around the vascularization problem. It suggest that as early as just 15-20 years, there will be doctors who can in a clinical setting make adults increase in height using the tissue engineering method.

You can see a video of him explain the research he is doing below. I will also be doing a complete summary on his research in a future post.

Why LSJL Could Work And What We Have Been Doing Wrong, Thank You Nixa Zizu – Big Breakthrough!

Just today a follower of the website who calls himself Nixa Zizu (who is one of our biggest supporters and contributors) uploaded information to the Natural Height Growth Facebook page which might have really cracked open the case on why it seems that LSJL might not be working so most of the people who have been doing it.

His results after just 2 weeks of doing the technique have resulted in almost half a centimeter of height gain. In my personal experience in getting accurate readings on height from using just rulers and stadiometers suggest that it is a large difference, which is unlikely due to just the normal diurnal variations we usually use as a reason to explain any differences in measured height.

The Message is below…

Nikola is sort of a famous Serbian YouTube celebrity that has a Serbo-Croatian audience. He has been in contact with us and promised me that he would start doing the LSJL routine consistently to see if he could get any real noticeable, results. (Click Here to Subscribe to his YouTube Channel Nixa Zizu)

Now that he has stated that he increased his height by 4 mm by doing what is known as Angular LSJL, it gives us a 2nd data point to work with.

Humans are creatures who have brains designed to notice any type of pattern, to make order and sense of the trillions of sensory input that reaches the brain every single moment. I am making a note that I see a pattern from just two data points, where both of the people have said that we need to actually correct (slightly adjust) the way we have been doing LSJL.

Nixa’s claim is just 1 of those data points. The other data point comes from the LSJL Forum in the thread “LSJL works… If Done This Way“. The post of the thread calling himself gr0wthnut claims to have gained 1.5 inches in height.

Whoever this gr0wthnut is, he also made the point that the location we are supposed to clamp down on is not exactly correct. I also suspect that the poster on the forums named Nixalsjl which exchanged a round of posts with gr0wthnut is Nicola of YouTube fame and he took the advice he got from Gr0wthnut and actually applied it in his own slightly modified LSJL routine. I am personally proud of this fact since we are now making real improvements on the original idea, which has not been improved upon for almost 5 years now.

You can see his video below…

This is the other 2nd data point. We can make a trend line using just 2 data points and jump maybe too quickly to seeing some type of pattern (which might not even be there). What would be nice is to get a 3rd or even 4th case of someone who noticed height gains after doing this modified approach.

So what did we learn and what do we take away from reading this post?

It seems that we have been wrong about the location about where to load/clamp. The standard theory that you clamp laterally on the side protruding bony part of the epiphysis may not be the best place. It is actually in the bony sloping/slanted bone area just below the epiphysis. This is the location on where gr0thnut and Nixalsjl are referring to.

I always had personal reservations against the method since it made no sense from a biological perspective how clamping laterally would make bone grow longitudinally in the axial direction. I’ve written almost half a dozen posts over the last 2 years going back and forth trying both to 1. prove or 2. disprove this idea that Tyler has been trying to prove for more than half a decade now. One of my first round of questions to him was over the idea on how the hell does induced chondrocytes from the MSCs manage to push outwards in all 5 directions (the 6th direction would be just pushing inwards) against the wall of the epiphysis made of cortical bone to make the epiphysis larger in volume.

I have never been able to fully swallow the idea of LSJL completely since it makes no sense from a materials or mechanical point of view. No matter how I try to wrap my head around it, it just makes no sense to me on an intuitive level (It just doesn’t seem right) , even after multiple times Tyler tried to clarify to me how the molecular mechanism would work. The bones are not thin and malleable like a balloon which would just puff up from a slight bit of pressure in some region. They are harder than stainless steel if you apply a load in the right direction.

However, this angular idea makes more sense.

While most scientific analysis requires a lot of lab experiments, mathematics and physics knowledge to comprehend what could happen if we change one variable in the system, to figure out how bones would react to say a clamp pressing down on them requires just intuition on how large objects work. You can use intuition to make many arguments.

Let’s look that the types of loading that has been traditionally defined from above. Most calculations you do in at least introductory civil engineering and mechanical engineering course gives you very simple diagrams to analyze, formulate, and solve for some variable. You have to deal with just forces that is tensile, compressive, shears, strains, or torsional.

What we are suggesting can not be easily modeled, because you are loading on the slanted part before the epiphysis head starts. I would suspect that the region we are going to be mechanically stimulating would be also the soft and most easily deformed area.

Imagine that the epiphysis is like a tube of toothpaste. Remember how most parents tell their kids to squeeze the toothpaste, to go from bottom up, squeezing not in the middle, as the original theory says, but to squeeze from the edges to push the entire content upwards. That is similar to what I am at least saying. In the process of squeezing the toothpaste from the bottom up, the upper part protrudes outwards, extending the volume on the upper side, which is what causes the little bit of bone volume change.

The last major point comes from the book The Body Electric by Dr. Robert Becker which I have referenced multiple times before. In one specific section, his research team tried to figure out what is the exact molecular mechanism to allow for Wolff’s law to be possible. How does the bones actually remodel themselves from a mechanical load? After bending the bones and noticing that the thickness of the bones increased in the opposite area where the bones were loaded, they came up with the theory that if you bend a long bone just like when you are trying to bend a wooden rod, the electrons pop out out of the side where you are bending them and move toward the side where the they are experiencing the most compressive load. The excessive in electrons causes certain molecules to move to that side to balance out the charge differences, adding more bone thickness in the process.

If we then use the simple principle that the thickness of bones increases in the opposite direction of a mechanical load, to make the upper area of the epiphysis thicker, we would need to load in the opposite direction. Obvious that would not be possible, since we prefer to view the bone as a cylinder with both ends attached axially to another long bone. There is no way to make the proximal epiphysis end of a tibia longer by loading the distal epiphysis end of the same tibia, unless we cut off the feet.

That means that the next best thing, to get as close to the opposite direction of the epiphysis top surface is to load in the direction of the slant/angular region of the epiphysis right before the protrusion begins. That is what I suggest we start to do and change towards.

So, again, do you see the picture to the upper right? See where the line/arrow that is showing the label “spongy bone” is point at in the part of the epiphysis ? Load there.

The Take-Away – Change the location to clamp on the Angular or Slanted Area just before the epiphysis protrusion area is most pronounced, which is almost opposite of the top of the epiphysis

{So you’re suggest to load below the epiphysis? That might be interesting as it would increase pressure within the epiphysis rather than the entire bone. I might have to try that and see if can get the immediate results I got with finger loading. With finger loading, I’m loading a much larger area which would include the area where the epiphysis meets the diaphysis.

Right now the current method suggests loading where the epiphysis meets the articular cartilage. This new method would suggest loading where the epiphysis would meet the diaphysis. A drawback would be no loading two bones and once. Another drawback would be that the end of the epiphysis is weaker and is more susceptible to deformation via mechanical load. I will still give it a shot.-Tyler}

Other Issues

There have been a few concerns within the community of people trying out the LSJL routine since Tyler did post an update to his height gains in the recent post “Height Increase Progress Update“ where he said that his recent visit to the doctor showed that he was 5′ 8.25″. This would suggest that maybe he never got any gains in all the years he has been trying. Other doctors offices have said that he is at 5′ 9.75″. For me, I am not sure what to make of this new information. A 1 and a half inch discrepancy in measured height from one doctor’s office to another is very extreme. Maybe the gains he did get for a few years was lost but I have no idea what to make of it at this time.

I am not that concerned with whatever his gains are, since he still does great work in research and contributing to the website. His effort and work has helped push the endeavor extremely far and revealed multiple new ideas on how we should proceed into the future.

Also, the recent thread on Miles Cordell from the UK claiming to disprove this idea has to be taken into consideration. So is Mr. Cordell’s claim valid? He says that he has never found one valid scientific paper to back up the idea His idea is that the knees or whatever synovial joints one would clamp down on would become swollen, which might cause a temporary illusion of height gain.

I can’t say much to this since he hasn’t looked over the study where older lab mice had their long bones increase in length from intermittent mechanical loading of the joints. (and yes, we all realize that in mice, the epiphyseal cartilage doesn’t really ever go away)

So You Are A Basketball Player and You Wish To Become Taller…

I’ve said in the past before that for a long time, I was a huge basketball fan. Growing up in the 90s and watching what is probably one of the most transcendent figures in professional sports establish his immortality gave me personal ideas on becoming a professional athlete. After years of practice and drills in the basketball courts of North Carolina, I realized that I couldn’t jump or be fast enough laterally. Now I live in Seattle. Being from Seattle and the Pacific Northwest, it was sort of sad that the Supersonics decided to leave to be in Oklahoma City.

Just yesterday my friend told me that the Seattle Seahawks had won the Superbowl from the Denver Broncos this year and how the streets of downtown Seattle was littered with hundreds of thousands of people. I had no idea since I don’t keep up with any other sports except basketball. That shows just how out of the loop I am with almost every other sport. Maybe that is why I’ve always had a unique fascination over height, or maybe just length in general. When a person is a basketball fanatic, they care about how big people are.

In basketball, one’s identity can be primarily defined by one’s size. In no other sport is innate god-given genetic luck more important than in basketball. With almost any other sport, one can be quite successful if they put all their effort into it. Even football can be something one can succeed in, since speed and bulk mass is important. For the wide receivers, being smaller can be a good thing since their center of gravity is lower, and speed and the ability to dodge players is critical. We can work on speed and muscle bulk. There is no way to work on making our bones longer or larger.

I don’t know many sports where a person can be drafted and given a multi-million dollar contract based on just “potential” alone. I’ve seen too many guys drafted and defined as “raw” or as “a project” because they are 7 feet tall and decided to start playing basketball only maybe a couple of years ago. To be drafted into professional basketball requires mainly three qualities…

Length – It turns out that height is not everything. The draft scouts now realize that you have to consider the wingspan of the players, and their maximum standing reach as well.
Jumping ability – combined with a person’s maximum vertical reach with their feet still on the ground, this shows what is the real maximum vertical jumping reach of a player.
Coordination – most people over a certain size have a really low coordination ability. I’ve known plenty of people who couldn’t even dribble a basketball properly or get their brain to process a normal jump shot.

Beyond these three qualities, there are obviously a few more qualities which are not as fundamental as those but if you have plenty of natural resources in the fundamentals, the basketball scouts will take a chance with you and just call you a “project”.

This is why in basketball, the main requirement to be considered is size of the player. If you are big enough, there will always be people who want to mold you into a basketball player.

So wishing to become taller is probably one of the most common desires in developing basketball players. Gaining even 2 extra inches can change one’s athletic career forever.

The first thing to realize is that probably 98% of all basketball players have at some point expressed the desire to be even bigger than where they are now. Even if they are already in the long tail/upper reaches of the height distribution curve, it is still not enough for them. Gaining more height and length only helps their game.

Is there something a person can do as a basketball player to get more size?

It depends mostly on how old a person is. If the player is 17 or younger, they still have a chance to grow more, on average. If the player is 18 or older, then there is probably very little chance they would ever again experience a natural growth spurt. While 1-2 inches in possible, a 19 year old basketball player should not expect that their height is going to explode upwards in one year.

In the few well known cases like David Robinson, Anthony Davis, or Dennis Rodman, their unique growth progression is something that happens to very few people. They are the 1 in a million case which no one who has even an average intelligence should expect for themselves. I have always said that one should not count on dumb luck and chance for god or randomness to do something nice for them. That is why I am willing to start a website like this one.

The best thing to do for any High School or Middle School player (male or female) who has dreams to become a professional basketball player, it is absolutely critical that they asses their own unique situation, and be practical in their choices. So let’s take a look at the most popular basketball player in the game today…

What Can Lebron James Tell Us About How To Grow Taller?

It turns out that there is not a lot that the basketball prodigy can tell us since he had no control over it when he was going through adolescence and puberty. Like most young guys in middle school and high school playing organized basketball, one of the key desires is to become bigger (taller and longer) so that they can be better at playing the game. Height is an attribute that is extremely valued in the particular sport where the general rule is “the more the better”. I remember Lebron once saying that his idol when he was growing up was Michael Jordan. He wanted to be tall like Mike and also wanted to get MJ”s shoes. Coming from a low class family, and being raised by a single mother, it was not possible at the time for him to afford the Air Jordan sneakers. However, the other desire was achieved. He did eventually reach 6′ 6″ like his idol but it seemed that nature (or maybe god?) gave him even more, and he outgrew his idol. The realization one day that he was even bigger than his basketball idol was probably something he did not expect.

Was he happy about that? He might have surpassed MJ in stature but will he surpass MJ in accomplishments and rings in his playing career?

We could guess that his height was due to genetics, but there doesn’t seem to be that much information about James’ father, only mother. From the interviews and talks with the mother, I suspect that she is of average height (5′ 4″-5′ 6″). The father who I have found very little information about we might guess could have been a good athlete at a young age too, and might have been just above average in height (6′ 1″-6′ 3″). Using those types of values, even at the upper limit, James’ height calculated using the standard formulae would have been around 6′ 2″, maybe. Based on the SD of height, he is at least 2 SD away from what is predicted of his height by the calculate values of his parents

So his height is listed at 6′ 8″ with a wingspan of 7′ 2″. Many people point out that his predraft measurements say that he is actually 6′ 7.25″ without shoes but after examining his pictures compared to other professional basketball players and standard height doors, we have enough confidence to say that Lebron James’ height is more likely 6′ 7.75″ for most of the day standing upwards. Based on the normal way height changes from diurnal variations of the intervertebral discs, his height after being decompressed from lying horizontally for a long time (aka sleep) would most likely exceed 6′ 8″. I personally suspect that him ending up so much bigger than what was expected of him from just the math shows how random and unique case he is.

If we look at the body shape of this “basketball player” we notice that he is much wider/ thicker than the average professional basketball player. He is described by sports analysts of having a NFL Linebacker type of body. Where most of the other players have an ectomorphic body type, his is a mesomorphic type. People with mesomorphic body types are not supposed to become too tall, because of the amount of weight that the growth plates would be subjected to. If there is too much weight on the cartilage, they will go through faster senescence. His listing of weight at 260 lbs says that he weighs more than many NBA centers, who are much taller than him. He supposedly can put on 20 lbs of pure muscle from doing almost nothing and eating just lean chicken.

We look at his strength next. This guy is strong. Unlike Kevin Durant, who has rather thin shoulders, skinny, but long, Lebron has slightly larger than proportion shoulders and a wider mid-section/core. Where Kevin Durant couldn’t even do 1 bench press of 185 lb in the predraft, Lebron is one of the only NBA players who have ever broken a backboard.

In terms of strength and weight, his body and natural abilities is much higher than the prototypical NBA player. How can we explain this phenomena? We suspect that what has happened to Lebron is the same as what happened to MJ, Michael Jordan. These basketball superstars who are supposed to be genetic freaks were never supposed to be as tall and long as they were supposed to be. Sure, we can say that all professional basketball players are supposed to be much shorter than they are supposed to be, since they are so many standard deviations away from what their genetics predicted, but the unique body shape of Lebron is a very extreme example. He has the strength and thickness of someone who is much shorter but just became taller from random chance.

The same can be said about MJ. MJ’s family genetic history shows no one that tall. His sister is just 5′ 5″ and his father is 6′ 0″. His brother Larry is around 5′ 9″. Michael’s height should have been just 5′ 11″-6′ 1″. His height as his late James Jordan said was maybe a sign from god that Michael would have to be an athlete or he would have starved due to lack of focus and good work ethic when he was younger. When we look at MJ’s sons, they are both closer to the average, at around 6’1″ – 6′ 2″. Michael was an anomaly in his size since no one in his family was that big. He has the strength and width of someone who is much shorter (he is also one of the only other people to ever break a backboard) but somehow through chance became much taller than what his genes had predetermined.

Looking at the numbers

There are supposed to be 370,000,000 people in the USA today. Guessing, out of those, maybe 2-3 mil of those people have played basketball in an organized fashion. Out of those people, about 1.5-2 mil are young enough between the ages of 12-18 to still have intact growth plates. Most of these kids, white, black, asian, hispanic, probably harbor some dream of becoming taller and playing basketball professionally for a career.

So you have the intent, and the desire, as well as some drive to get better at the game, which means these young middle school and high school kids practice drill in the basketball courts 5 times a week in their school basketball teams. The mental aspect is all there. That probably makes up half or more of those kids, or about 1 million secondary school basketball players.

Then the only thing that is really required is the physical. The main requirement would be size. Is the kid big enough to be selected by a team at the next level? For the majority of them, they are not.

Most of those kids trying to get into the NBA (or even college basketball) will never be taller than 6′ 3″, which I believe is the current established cutoff point, where a kid goes from “average” size to “worth the scout to consider” size. For example, Anthony Davis was a completely passed over average skilled 6′ 3″ point guard until he grew 7 inches which pushed him into the national spot light. A 6′ 10″ PF/4 with point guard handling skills is something which is very hard to come by. On average, most kids have already grown to 98% of their expected final adult height by 15-17. A 7 inch growth spurt within a 1 year time is something to definitely take notice to which changes almost everything in the basketball world. When you are too short/small, the scouts at the next level will not look at you, unless one has tremendous skills.

The problem there, is that those others “skills” are also sort of an innate talent which a person can’t really work on. The ability to jump high, go for an explosive first step to drive pass the defender, the “handles” and lateral quickness are something which is mostly innate talent which can not be learned. Sure, one “can’t teach height”, but the basketball monday morning QBs also forget to mention that you can’t teach athleticism either. Some people just have more fast trigger muscles which allow them to jump higher, no matter how much jumping practice the other person competing against them does. One might be able to get the drills in the gym every day to get faster, but the limitation will come down to the thickness of the nerve bundles running down their limbs and the number of neurons in the brain, which gives the hard working kid the ability to be coordinated, explosive, and/or be able to read the signals during the game correctly and instantly. Those anatomical traits are set at birth.

When our team and research goes away, the kids are left to the forces of chance and pure dumb luck. Of course, every one of those kids who messages us claims that they will make it, and will work hard everyday. We are sure they will, but there will also be a million other kids just like them going through the exact same drills, the same exercises, the same routines and strategies. What is going to make them unique and differentiate themselves from the million other kids in the exact same position?

There is no way to really get around it either. There is no cheat code one can use. This is not like a college admission test where being a legacy, having parents throwing money, or knowing someone is going to give them a shortcut way to be admitted into that exclusive club thousands of others are trying to get in. You can’t scam your way into becoming a professional athlete, since that is based on scouts looking at the raw skills of a person. Maybe 20-30 years ago a real talent might have been missed and they never got their shot in the NBA trials, but these days with the internet, it is almost impossible for the basketball scouts to miss out on what many people call a “touch diamond”. Big guys who have some type of coordination are often sent to basketball camps to be worked on as a “project” because they are too “raw”.

We often get bombarded by teenagers telling us that they are basketball players wanting to become taller. What can they do?

There are many things they can do, but we haven’t written any type of guide yet for them.

However, what we can suggest can only give them at most 2 inches and those are for the most extreme cases. We try to be very realistic on what we can control and have any type of affect on. If these kids are hoping for something to give them 4-5 inches, I can only tell them to pray that they are that lucky and be that 1 out of 100,000 kid who gets the mega-growth spurt. I would of course tell them to not put all their hopes into something so random and improbable and focus instead of looking for something that has better odds for success. Hedge their dreams of playing professional ball and stay in school to learn a useful skill to take with them.

The life of a professional athlete is short since the human body will eventually wear down. You have to have some type of backup plan after one’s playing days are over.

In the world, we only hear about the success stories and the winners, the people who got lucky. (Sure, they were focused, worked hard, focused on learning, and were persistent but there are plenty of examples I know of people who still did not reach the success they hoped for due to bad luck in some area of life, which they had no control over or could have predicted earlier in life.) We never hear about the losers, the ones who never made it, who were not big enough or talented enough. This tendency of people to constantly use as case study the few minority cases where the person had a happy ending is known as survivorship bias. We like to trick ourselves in believing that our life and case is somehow special. Not everyone can become a MJ or Lebron. .

In the long term, our physical accomplishments are most likely going to become surpassed by someone else. Like all the Olympic records, the newer generation of kids will shatter the older generation of athletic records. People thought MJ was the greatest 20 years ago but now it is supposed to be Lebron, which might be surpassed by KD in another 10 years. Who is next, who will be so physically imposing and dominant who will make Lebron, Shaq, and Dwight H. look weak and small in comparison?

The people in our generation seems to be so fixated on the size, and strength of Lebron, DH, and KD, because we don’t have footage showing how well Bird, Magic, and MJ played which was 20 years ago. The older generations knows full well the accomplishments of Wilt Chamberlain but we don’t know that. They talk about his strength and dominance but we think of Shaq when we think of overwhelming size and dominance. We just didn’t experience what they experienced. That is their reference point. We all are using our own reference point, our current time line and say that the person in our current time is the best of all time, when they are only the best of our particular time or generation.

However, our mental and intellectual accomplishments will stand for much longer. As long as something we created or discovered is shared with the world and the world fully accepts and acknowledges our contribution and effort, people will always remember our life’s work.

In the words of the late Los Alamos physicist Richard Feynman…

“From a long view of the history of mankind, seen from, say, ten thousand years from now, there can be little doubt that the most significant event of the 19th century will be judged as Maxwell’s discovery of the laws of electrodynamics. The American Civil War will pale into provincial insignificance in comparison with this important scientific event of the same decade.”

This Non-Available Prodrug Taken Orally Helps Older Adults Become Taller

I am very happy with the results of the former post “This Non-Prescription Supplement Has Been Scientifically Proven To Make You Grow Taller Even With Closed Growth Plates“. The reaction that it received was what I was sort of hoping for and so far, it has had over 50,000+ views already. Since that post was so popular, I wanted to do a 2nd post which shows them another compound which we have found which have a similar ability.

This compound is known as a prodrug, which I am not sure how to obtain, taken orally has been shown only on a theoretical basis to increase height in the lab animals. In rats, their body lengths increased in the ways which we desire. From what I personally have read about it, I have about a 60% confidence in its ability to increase height in people who can ever get it. It would work best on adults, those people who are in theirs 30s and beyond. This suggests that this compound would indeed work for people with closed growth plates, or even specifically intended for people with completely ossified epiphyseal cartilage tissue.

So what is 2nd chemical compound which has this ability?

It is called CPA-926.

I first was informed of this particular drug in an article I had cited in one of my previous posts. This particular compound is mentioned in both the books Dynamic Reconstruction of the Spine (by Daniel H. Kim & Frank P Cammisa on pg 384) and Nonfusion Technologies in Spine Surgery. (edited by Marek Szpalsk on pg 53). I will also be referencing the medical reference “Therapeutic Strategies for Modulating the Inflammatory Diseases” edited by Barry M. Weichman but not as much as the other two.

There was also a few articles I had to glance over (notice I used the word glance, and not study) which validated this idea that the prodrug could indeed work.

It seems that this compound is both anti-tumorogenic and anti-inflammatory, which are always positives for almost any compounds we ever intend to swallow.

The most important study is the one done by Okuma.

Okuma M, An HS, Nakagawa K, Akeda K, Muehleman C, Masuda K (2005) Oral administration of esculetin prodrug inhibits intervertebral disc degeneration in the rabbit annular needle puncture model. Orthopaedic research society meeting, (p 370)

This particular article was published in The Spine Journal back in Sept 10, 2004 (volume 4 or 5).

We are not sure if there is a PubMed study link to it but the title of the study is located and scattered around Google just from a quick search.

From a quick look, it seems that even one patent referenced this method on how to treat discs that are degenerating.

For more proof that this idea of inhibiting the loss of disc, we refer to the patent “Method for inhibiting fibrocartilage degradation (WO 2005091960 A2)“ by Koichi Masuda, a director of Orthopaedic Surgery. (His Curriculum VItae is Available Here). I never did look over the patent extensively but did glance over the document to mine a few interesting facts about CPA-926.

The compound is provided by Kureha Chemical Ind., Co. Ltd., Tokyo Japan or Kureha Chemical Corp
Following the lateral X-rays of the lumbar spine, the vertebral body height and disc height of the IVDs were measured
Oral administration of CPA-926 preserved disc height and the histological analyses of these tissues show that CPA- 926 protects against disc degenerative chances in a rabbit model

At this point, it might not be possible to call up the sales people at Kureha and get them to ship a few grams of this cartilage regenerative chemical compound. I haven’t tried it but is only providing evidence of its efficacy.

In terms of how effective this chemical compound could be, it could be similar to Harpagoside, which I wrote about in the old post “Increase Height and Grow Taller Using Harpagoside“

So does this mean that every single compound which has inhibitory effects on compounds which have catabolic effects on cartilage (aka treats osteoarthritis) is good?

If we were to be completely general, I would give a tentative yes to that question. While there is probably a few dozen compounds the drug synthesize makers know of which have abilities to treat diseases associated with articular cartilage degeneration, very few of them have shown the characteristic of doing more than just preventing degradation, but also anabolic effects, where cartilage is regrown back. This prodrug of the chemical compound 6,7-dihydroxycoumarin suggests that it has those anabolic effects besides just the usual inhibition of catabolic processes in the IVDs.

Is it however better than just popping Glucosamine Sulfate?

We are not sure about the comparison but it is obviously harder.

Is it safe to take orally?

From the 3-4 main studies that have talked about this compound, it has been found to be safe on the lab rats and lab rabbits it was tested on.

So we buy this from somewhere?

I have not searched to see whether the Keruha Chemical Corp in Tokyo sells this stuff.

The Inhibitory Effects Of CPA-926 On The MMPs

On multiple posts written by Tyler over the years, he mentions over and over again how the MMPs (aka Matrix Metalloproteinases) are not good for height increase, specifically MMP-9 and MMP-13. My own research supports this opinion. The study by Yamada and even Watanabe (Esculetin suppresses proteoglycan metabolism by inhibiting the production of matrix metalloproteinases in rabbit chondrocytes.) suggests that for esculetin at least and whatever derivatives that is made from it (or a precursor to the compound) shows that the main way these compounds work is by targeting the pathways of the MMPs.

For the Future

I am also looking into three other compounds called RO 32-3555 (aka Trocade), SKI 306X and KHBJ-9B, which seems to have similar properties in being anti-inflammatory and great for prevention of cartilage degeneration. Those reports will be delivered on another day.

Chondrodiatasis Is Tensile Loading The Epiphyseal Growth Plate Cartilage Longitudinally Without Fractures

For a long time I’ve wondered whether it was possible to do more than just stretch out the bone tissue to make the overall bones longer, and it seems that there have been a few recent articles which came out showing that it is indeed possible to stretch out cartilage (epiphyseal growth plate) tissue. More than just stretching the cartilage, it seems that it would not even result in any type of fractures.

This medical technique is known as chondrodiatasis. It seems that it is so rare and so uncommon that there is almost no information on it except in a few sources from Google. Even orthopedic surgeons are not that too familiar with this idea. (There is a 2nd type of physeal distraction called distraction epiphysiolysis which is much faster but does result in fractures and the cartilage ossifying by the trabecular bone tissue).

In the medical reference book “Musculoskeletal Tissue Regeneration: Biological Materials and Methods“ by Vacanti and Pietrzak there is a small section dedicated to alternative ways to distract bones which is much less step intensive.

There are two types. You have…

1. Distraction Epiphysiolysis – This method is the distraction of the growth plate at a fast rate of 1-1.5 mm per day. The fast rate of separation between the epiphysis and metaphysis results in the cartilage developing fractures, which also leads to the physeal cartilage to turn into trabecular bone. The experiment done by Zavialov and Plaskin back in 1967 showed the change of the cartilage into bone. We won’t focus on this type of physeal distraction technique too much because of the fact that the cartilage is almost immediately converted into bone through advanced levels of osteogenesis.

2. Chondrodiatasis – This is the type of physeal distraction that would be worth our time to look at. It is very slow in fact, usually less than 0.5 mm a day. It seems that tension stress causes the chondrocytes to increase in activity. This technique also increases the level of osteogenesis but there is no evidence (yet) that the cartilage will convert into bone tissue.

Sliedge and Noble back in 1978 showed that they could increase the thickness of lab rabbit’s growth plates by 150% without the presence of fractures. De Bastiani distracted it at just 0.25 mm a day and the chondrocytes cells went through hyperplasia but the overall form of the cells did not seem to change. When the rate of longitudinal growth after physeal distraction was checked, there was no decrease in bone longitudinal growth seen.

Remember however that for any type of bone or cartilage distraction, the surgeons would still drill two pin holes into the bone to pull. It seems that there is no way to get away from having an external fixator used.

However, there will always be complications associated…

Surgical Complication #1: Because we are talking about the growth plates, which are often already so thin, to distract them by only 0.25 mm a day would be very hard to perform.

Surgical Complication #2: The physis would actually get damaged.

Surgical Complication #3: This is the major issue, which seems to be many incidences where growth of the bones seemed to completely stop, which is slightly concerning.

Out of the three ways that you can distract a bone, both of the ways to distract cartilage has proven to be not that effective. That is why the surgeons have almost always just focused on callotasis, instead of these two other types of surgical techniques.

Looking through the PubMed archives, there were probably only a dozen studies which ever mention this term “Chondrodiatasis“. We picked the ones which are worth looking over and linked them below…

We will also make a medical reference to the text “Physeal Injury Other Than Fracture” By Hamlet A. Peterson.

While the initial studies showed us that maybe it is possible to lengthen a bone by distracting the epiphyseal cartilage, which would mean no osteotomy necessary, these later studies showed that maybe it is not such a good idea.

The first study gave us hopes and showed that the surgical technique might be viable. There was no visible lesions, infections, or loss in vascularization.

It is the 2nd study which showed that this technique did have its own share of problems. It seemed that when the bone lengthening was done, almost immediately after the surgery was over, the cartilage ossified over. The end result was that the lengthen bone actually shrank. The end result was that this type of surgery was not recommended for children who are too young or have just a small limb length discrepancy.

The last study done on the femoral growth plates of lab dogs was not as informative as I hoped. All it showed that was if you are going to be pulling the bone, the cortical bone and the area where the cartilage and the bone touch will experience a high level of stress.

Conclusion

These procedures known as Chondrodiatasis and Distraction Epiphysiolysis are not well known because they are probably almost never done anymore. It seems that the amount of complications where the cartilage will ossify to prematurely was the reason most orthopedic surgeons will not try to length bones by doing distraction on the cartilage. Distracting the bone tissue seems to be much less complicated and more straight forward, with much more surgical evidence and examples.