A List Of People With Regrets In Life Over Height And Short Stature,

When I think back to the large number of people in my own family who have some form of regret over their turnout in height in life, I wonder whether we are normal or crazy in our obsession with height. I know that this desire to find a solution to short stature is something that most people in my core family has desired. Here is a list of of what I can remember off of the top of my head right now.

Father – He is probably 5′ 5″-5′ 6″. He has two main regrets in life, one of them being that he never got to enough to eat when he was younger being born and raised in a 3rd world country back then. When I was younger he told me stories of going days without food and experiencing hunger pains all the time. He blames the lack of nutrition and food for his short size which at this point he doesn’t care much anymore.

Mother – She is 5′ 5″ -5′ 6″. She seems to have a strong affinity to tall men (well most females do anyway) and she often joked that her main regret in marrying my father was that he was not as tall as she wanted. In the end, everything worked out and she is content now with how her offspring came out in height.

Sister – She is probably 5′ 4″. Like I said in a previous post she has a strange complex with height and always needs to wear high heels.

Female Cousin #1 – 5′ 2″ – 5′ 3″. She doesn’t care much anymore since she is older now and married but if there was a solution, she would take it for her and also use it for she future children.

Former Girlfriend #1 – 5′ 1″- 5′ 2″. She was insecure over her short stature which was caused by a thyroid issue. That was never problem for me.

Former Girlfriend #2 – 5′ 0″ – 5′ 1″. She has an irrational desire to be taller. She said that she would rather choose to be taller than have $$$. She was one of the people who planted the idea for me initially to start the website.

Former Girlfriend’s Mother – Probably 5′ 0″ – 5′ 1″. She also didn’t like being short and always had to wear high heels. She joked that the main reason she dated her husband originally was because he was tall.

So that is a list of people in my own life who had some type of regret of their size. How many people do you know which has a similar psychological issue?

Hi, I’m ENTER YOUR AGE years old. Am I Still Growing? Can I Still Grow Taller?

height-measurement-doctor-11072202Note: This post will be linked to one of the questions asked and answered in the FAQ section. Its intention is to cut down on the number of commonly asked questions that I receive to the website email and streamline the operations of the website/blog.

In the last week there has been a noticeable increase in emails the website email has been getting with a common themed question that runs along this message…

“Hi, I’m ENTER YOUR AGE years old. Am I Still Growing? Can I Still Grow Taller?”

It would be smart if I wrote a post write now to explain in as much detail as I can to finally answer this question in entirety and resolve it for the questioner. If you ask another followup question and explain further on your own unique individual situation, I probably can’t help you. I am NOT a medical professsional, nutritionist, personal trainer, or whatever else can give these types of advice.

I am a height and height increase analyst, researcher, inventor, and maybe also consultant when I finally get the knowledge down, which would take 4-5 years of continued study and research. Guessing is not a scientific way of making predictions and on average, I am wrong more time than I am right. Every time I’ve bet on something, I’m always the one who losses his money.

So this is my answer to this very general question…

Answer: In previous posts I have  shown that whether a person is still growing naturally depends on their sex, ethnicity, age, lifestyle, and even mental health. If we hold all the other factors constant and just look at the factor of age as a variable I would say that for 95-99% of all people in a population, the age that they stop growing is 15-17 years old for girls, and 17-19 years old for guys. To arrive at these two age ranges, I take the resource from Duke Health , MedHelp, and United States Tennis Association.

  • From Duke Health – “On average, females are done growing around age 12 to 14, and boys around age 14 to 16.
  • From MedHelp – “”
  • Femur: The 3 epiphyses/growth plates at upper end fuse at 18 years , The 1 epiphysis/growth plate at lower end fuse at 20 years 
  • Tibia: Upper end fuses at 16-18 years , Lower end fuses at 15-17 years 
  • Humerus: Upper end during 20th year , Lower end at about 16 years 
  • Radius: Upper end during 18th year , Lower end at 20 years
  • From USTA – “For example, the growth plates in the elbow area close at approximately ages 12 to 14 in girls, but not until ages 15 to 16 in boys.

From all these different values, it can be really hard to pinpoint what exactly is the age range. The reason why the Duke Health has the lowest age range is that the doctors are trying to be accurate as possible.

Remember: In general doctors always choose to error on the side of giving below average prognosis and chances. If they say that a patient is healthy and they turn out to be wrong, they can suffer from lawsuits. If instead they give below average prognosis and news, if they make a mistake and the patients do better than their pronosis, they will not be sued. This type of doctor protocol in giving non-positive prognosis is to make themself safe from erroring on the wrong side.

Overall, there are hundreds of Medical websites and resources on the internet and most of them would say it is probably around the 13-15 years range for girls, and 15-17 age range for boys where the growth plates in the long bones close.

Key Point: However, We must also remember that the age of final and complete epiphyseal cartilage ossification in the vertebrate is actually on average 2 years further than in the long bones of the limbs. (I currently can’t find the source for this fact but it is backed up by Scientific Literature).

This means that the usual way of determining whether one’s growth plates are closed from where the endocrinologist or orthopedic doctor looks at just 1 X-ray picture of the left hand  is very inaccurate. Currently, there is two main ways to measure for bone maturity through studying growth plates, the Tanner-Whitehouse (TW) and Greulich-Pyle (GP) methods. Overall the Greulich Pyle method which just using an eyeballing guess is not as accurate as the numerical method of Tanner Whitehouse.

At this point, I don’t know which method the doctors looking at your growth plates will use, if they use it at all. I would assume that any good doctor which is willing to take their time with their patient will be more accurate but the busy schedule of doctors might cause them to just eyeball your X-rays and using their years of practice and expertise give a rounding value. I wrote in a previous post entitled “Your Growth Plate X-Rays Don’t Tell The Entire Story, Why Your Doctor Can Be Wrong And You Might Still Be Growing 🙂” which showed that these doctors are often wrong.

So if you are an adolescent or going through puberty, you can still grow if you are AT or BELOW these age ranges.

  • Girls: 15-17
  • Boys: 17-19

Things to Note: It seems from my personal observation that guys have a bell curve distribution function that has long tails (using statistic jargon here). This means that the age range is less accurate in getting the right numbers for men and many do fall out of the age range. Some men keep growing until 22-23 even. For women, there are instances where pregnancy caused the onset of additional height increase in females, but those cases are outliers.

Advice: You need an X-Ray of your growth plates to be accurate. This x-ray will be analyzed by a specialist, an endocrinologist or orthopedics (still not sure which one yet). This means that FIRST you will need to see your family or personal doctor. After consulting with them, tell them you wanted to know your ability to continue to grow and ask them to write you a recommendation to see a specialist who can read the X-rays. They will provide the recommendation. Once you meet the specialist tell them specifically to get at least 3 rays. This will probably run around the cost of $600-800, $200 for the knee, $190 for the wrist, and $280 for the spine, $370 for the chest, using National X-Ray cost averages (source), not including the cost of seeing the family doctor and the specialist, but if you really are serious about knowing your growth rate and whether you can continue to grow, you will go through with it to be accurate.

  • One for the left hand to give them a reference point,
  • One for the knee to check the distal femoral physis and the proximal tibial physis.
  • One for the cervical region of the vertebrate. This is to look at the growth plates there which will fuse AFTER the growth plates in the long bones are mostly gone.

Sure, there are other growth plates and cartilage in other places which we haven’t considered to give the best answer, but with these three X-rays used as set points, the medical specialists would be able to answer your original question “Am I Still Growing? Can I Still Grow Taller?” far more easily and accurately. I hope this post was good enough to answer your original question. This is the best advice I can give at this point.

Review Of Elevate GF Height Increase Pill, The Other Internet Marketing Supplement

Screen Shot 2012-12-14 at 1.21.28 PMWhen I was going through the original search through the Internet looking at the different types of height increase and grow taller scams, I thought the biggest Internet Marketing product was Grow Taller 4 Idiots. Recently I have been noticing that new links and short urls on Twitter messages popping up for another heavily marketed product which can only be a scam.

It seems that if you click on the crazy marketing messages on Twitter, it always takes you to a sales page which pretends to be a Men’s Health magazine website page. However even a 1 minute analysis of the webpage shows that the website is not related to the actual Men’s Health magazine in anyway. If you wanted to see the webpage, click HERE. This is one of the worst sales pages I’ve seen yet because the page only has links to the product. No matter where you click, it always takes you to the Pill’s webpage.

From the sales page…

You may have heard of the enormously popular Elevate GF in the news. It’s a completely organic supplement that celebrities & body builders use around the world that they don’t want you knowing about. But today we are leaking the secret. Elevate GF offers many benefits primarily due to its high anti-oxidant content. It’a all natural HGH hormones make is a “Stud “Building” machine. If you’re skeptical, you’re not alone. When we first learned about this ‘grow taller’ miracle, our fad radar went off right away.

 You may have heard of the enormously popular Elevate GF in the news. It’s a completely organic supplement that celebrities & body builders use around the world that they don’t want you knowing about. But today we are leaking the secret. Elevate GF offers many benefits primarily due to its high anti-oxidant content. Combine it with a powerful and all natural HGH, and you’ve created a tall man machine. If you’re skeptical, you’re not alone. When we first learned about this product, our fad radar went off right away.

Elevate GF has been clinically proven to:

  • Improve Natural Growth 
  • Enhance Mood And Well Being 
  • Improves Self-Confidence
  • Helps Improve General Health
  • Even has positive sexual side effects, which is an amazing side benefit! (I’m not even kidding, my favorite muscle seems bigger too. Probably from the expanded blood vessels)

There is one testimonial story where a guy claimed he grew 3 inches in 4 months taking these pills. He went from a height of less than 5′ 5″ to 5′ 8.5″. However what a normal guy would wonder is why he decided to stop taking the pills if he was getting those results since most guys want to be taller, at least to 6 feet. If you did click on the sales links which I would guess most people would never do, you get to the product’s page.

On the page, the creators list the main ingredients which are…

  1. Mucana Pruriens
  2. Rhaponticum Carthamoides
  3. Terminalia Arjuna
  4. Phyllanthus Emblica

While I have not looked at the bottom three supplement elements, I have looked at the first and the old research says that taking Mucana Pruriens can definitely help release slightly more GH into the system so the science is relatively true. As for the other three supplements, one of them is to make heart healthier, another have anti-viral properties, and the last seems to help with cognitive function and muscular issues.

The sales page says that the supplement will help the person has a better deep sleep, but especially in the REM stage since that is where it might be that the greatest GH is released. In essence, this product height increase pill is supposed to increase the GH release, and this is combined with two other types of compounds, the peripheral membrane protein, and the sex hormone-binding globulin. At this point, I don’t know anything about these compounds. However I would guess that they have a function in the endocrine system of the body and probably indirectly regulates human growth in some way.

What is very frustrating is that most of the sales claims is not for height increase, but for muscle mass increase, tissue recovery and healing, and more energy. There is a small section that says that this product will work to make people who are over 18 taller and this is the blantant fake claim that they make.

If this product was sold on the internet as an adult GH supplement which can ONLY increase muscle mass, increase energy, and possibly have positive sexual performance effects, then it can be passed off as possible since GH in physically mature adults have been shown to increase muscularity. Where they go wrong is claim to make adults taller.

When I decided to click on the “Get Started” button I am redirectly back to the same page. It seems every single link only gets directed back to this one specific webpage. However on this page is a small fill-out form where a person must give their address and information. What I am guessing from my Internet Marketing background is that someone created this webpage NOT to sell a height increase supplement, but more likely to test the internet space and market to see how feasible it is and look at conversion rates. That’s my guess at this point.

H.U.S.S. Method For Height Increase By Hakker For Stacking Found

I am finding in recent days that a lot of people have been finding the website and have become willing to chip in in their way to contribute to the cause.

I got a message on the Natural Height Growth  Facebook page from a regular reader who goes by the name “Knivez” who said that they have been doing A LOT of research on height increase through stacking steroids and supplements. And he provided to me the complete H.U.S.S. method, which if I remember correctly would be able to give the person who did it around 4.5 cm of height increease in 3 months or something around those values.

At this point I am trying to finish the old private posts and add upon the “Library” section to get a real database going. A lot of it is just to clean the website out and to sort things out so that it would be easier for me and the readers to access any important  material easier. That will the main focus for me for the next month or so. More material will be added but they are ideas or topics which I’ve thought about but haven’t gotten to talking about. I’m still hoping to get people like Hakker who has shown back up, Kazlina (goes by Nikki), and Dr. Brighton to come and get interviewed.

From the message poster….


I’m not exactly sure if this information is valid or not but I’ve been doing a lot of research lately pertaining to Height Increase and I found some interesting topics such as the HUSS Routine; 

Ghenerate 8 sprays – Stimulates Pi3K Activity and cell proliferation
– IGH1 1 pill – Stimulates LH secretion and increases GH production – NOT FOR OPEN PLATES
Niacin 500mg – Acts as a vasodilator and contributes to GH release – EOD
Melatonin 3mg – Increases sleep depth and acts as a mild AI – EOD
Triazole 3 pills – Suppresses aromatase activity AI
Huperzine A 100mcg – Inhibits release of somatostatin – EOD
Pyridostigmine 60mg – Better than huperzine A but kinda expensive.
Ipriflavone – Promotes chondrogenesis
– SAM e – Dna methylation and anti-oxidant
L-Arginine/L-Ornithine/L-GABA – 500mg+ – Stimulates GH production – EOD
Chondroitin – Amplifies IGF1 effect on chondrocytes
E-BOL – Promotes protein synthesis (ask altitude for sources and dosing)

I thought you might benefit from knowing exactly what some of the stacks were used in the past since they are not readily available. I’m also looking into some other methods previously discussed if you are interested 
– Multivitamin (Optimen) – A to Z – Nutrients and minerals
– Calcium 1500mg – For bone modelling and density

Analysis: If this list is the H.U.S.S. routine, I think then they are missing the part about exercise, nutrition, and sleep. If however they are just showing the supplement stack Hakker was suggesting, then the supplements are very accurate. Most of these supplements have been looked at some level before and I have stated that some of them have a real possibility to increase height. Right now I don’t intend to go into the science and theory of the supplements until I get some logistical and website issues worked out. However I will be keeping the list in the back of my mind so I can go back to this post to either edit and add upon the list or to write up new  posts looking at each compound individually.

Message For Tyler: If you are reading this, would you care to leave a comment on what you think about some of these supplement stacks? I don’t have the technical ability at this point to do a good enough critique for some of the stuff I haven’t seen before.

Intro Video To YouTube For Natural Height Growth Website Is Uploaded

This is a reminder to the readers, old and new, that I am going to make the presence of the website even bigger now in trying to branch out further into the YouTube channel.

I have found that the more channels you use to distribute the website’s presence the more people who come and visit the website. A huge part of my effort in the last 3 months have been just to generate more traffic to the website. This may be because of my Internet Marketing background and influence. Traffic is always on my mind, and it is not healthy. I think I check my traffic stats too much.

Anyway, the Natural Height Growth has it’s own YouTube channel (as well as Facebook, Twitter, and Podcast). You can get to the channel by clicking HERE. The source link is HERE.

Note: I am going to try to stay away from doing anymore posts that reviews websites, products, and scam pills and actually move towards on reviewing these products through a Youtube video. I personally think that it will be easier and will be a better way to reach more people. 

The video is embedded from YouTube below. For the regular readers, there is really nothing new on the video except me talking again (not showing my face yet since I am still a little hesitant about making that final leap). I am explaining to future website visitors and readers why my website is the best resource they can find. This is for them.

  • Click Here To Subscribe To The Natural Height Growth Channel On YouTube!

Review Of B-TALL Height growth Course of Dr. Monga’s Ayurveda Company Amritsar

In another Email Sugata gave me, he wanted me to look at another website based from India on the claim that they can help people increase their height. This time it is with a website, company, Dr, and product which I had listed in the “Scams” section in the beginning of being a scam.

So let’s try to do a quick review of the website, doctor, claim, and the product.

  • Product Being Sold: B-TALL Height growth Course
  • Doctor: Dr. Monga
  • Website: www.heightincrease.in
  • Company: Amritsar
  • Based Off Of: Mumbai or Delhi, India
[Note: A quick type of the phrase “Be Tall Dr. Monga” into Google reveals many, many other websites also selling the same program/product.]
From their About page…
B-TALL Height growth Course of Dr. Monga’s Ayurveda and natural Company Amritsar is result of decades of analysis, analysis and statement of Dr. Monga R.P. Arora (A.R.S.H London). Dr. Monga R.P.Arora is exercising Ayurveda from more than 50 decades at Monga medical center Amritsar (since 1950) and is well well known in Northern and Northern –East Indian for his amazing therapies for height increase, head issues, hair loss, skin issues like acne, pimples, skin tones skin psoriasis, sensitivity issues, losing weight and male/female sex-related dysfunctions, which he has designed with decades of analysis and study.

Dr. Monga’s Ayurveda and herbal Company which is a sister concern of Dr. Monga’s Medical center has come in to life to carry all those awesome, efficient and proven programs to public via store retail marketing and promotion on net.

B-TALL Height growth Course of Dr. Monga’s Ayurveda Company allows you to become taller before and  after adolescence, Increase your Height naturally normally with the help of Ayurveda which is historical science of life, now commonly approved and identified by healthcare fraternity world over for its efficient and side effect free nature.

Our Height Growth Pills consists of Ayurveda, natural supplements, yogasana, healthy and balanced eating as recommended by Ayurveda. Those All the three elements works together  to give preferred results that helps you Grow tall, Gain Height.

For the last THIRTY FIVE years B-TALL Height Increase Program has been considered the best resource of safe development and supplementing to globally, and provides you with the fast Growth results. B-TALL Height Increase Product– A Top quality, virtually risk free increase height natural ingredients to help you become taller and faster by regenerating your bone and cartilages.

We were the first one to introuduce the treatment for slow growth/height increase in India and the most successful one , thousands of patients have used it and got desired results. B-TALL Height growth supplement which allows people add extra inches in their height development.

This Ayurvedic Medicine  natural. B-TALL ( Medicine for height increase ) is very effective and result oriented. 
B-TALL  Height Increase Course 
:-

  • Boosts natural process of Growth of  body system and as a result Bones start gaining length and thus body height increases.
  • Tones and strengthen Muscles  by promoting new cell and tissue growth.
  • Improves suppleness of spine and increases the density and thickness of Vertebral disks and a result elongation of spine takes place and height increases.
  • Enhances Metabolic rate which further results to lean body.
  • Strengthens Nervous System
  • Generates Amino that work as a meals supplement for Pituitary. A more a powerful pituitary can help in improved levels of  growth hormones.
  • Controls Cholesterol levels and is a good tonic for Heart.
  • Helps in Insomnia.
  • Slow down aging.
  • Decreases excessive fat
  • Improves memory power
Me: So we see that this entire course is supposed to take 6 months. There is 4 types of pill/ supplements that subject has to take, 1 for each day. This is calculated to 720 pills. I am choosing not to spend the time to even go through and read the testimonials since those things can easily be faked. What may be the most interesting and insightful page would be the “Ingredients” page. This is what is listed…
Substances in
B-TallB-TALL I

Each 250 mgsugar covered  product contains: –
Asparagus Racemosus  (Shatavari)      50 mg
Withania Somnifera  (Ashwagandha)     50mg
Lepidium Sativum      (Halo)                 50mg
Pueraria  Tuberosa (Vidhari Kandha)     100mg
Emblica officinalis  (Amla) Bhawna        qs

B-TALL II
Each 250.00mg suger covered product contains:-
Ferrosa ferric oxide MANDOR BHASAM   200mg
Swaran Hit                                            50mg

B-TALL III
Each 250.00mg suger covered product contains:-
Oyster spend (Mukta shukti Bhasam)   100mg
Emblica officinalis  (amla)                  100mg
Glyegrrhiza  Glabra (Yashtimadhu)     50mg

B-TALL IV
Each 250.00mg suger covered product contains:-
KAMDHENU RAS                             75mg
Arogyavardhani  Ras                         75mg
Lepidium Sativum  (Halo)                  50mg

Me: What I did like about this website was that after the ingredients were listed, their was a short paragraph at the bottom of the page explaining what exatly each ingredient was, what family it was part of, and what it has been traditionally been used for in Ayurvedic Medicine. The two main problems I see is that first the pills are covered in sugar first, obviously to mask the taste. The second part is that in the paragraph of description, only one of the ingredients were even claimed to have any type of effect on bone. Most of the ingredients appear to be just plants and herbs which have been a part of ayurveedic medicine but have other medicinal uses, but not bone promotion. In conclusion, I am quite sure from looking over the ingredients that the pills which make up the entire height increase course can not be effective in increasing height in at least the adults. Maybe for children if it can help improve their immune system and keep them from developing serious illness which can stunt their growth, the pills would not be effective.
In the FAQs page, they answer two essential questions…
At what age one can start B-TALL course .
B-TALL course can be began at age 8 + to 30 yo , it’s better to start course earlier, more and sooner you get the results.
How many inches or cms of height can be improved by using B-TALL course.
One to three cms (½” to 1.2” inch) of development in height is seen in most of the patients of age 20 and below after B-Tall Course of 3 month . 2 to 6 inche growth in height can be seen in age group below 16 years , 1 to 4 inches growth in height can be seen in age group 16 to 25 years old and 1 to 3 inches growth in 25+ age . Some clients have improved their height by 18 cms to 27 cms ( 6” to 9” inches ) with 18 to 24 month use of B tall height increaser .
Conclusion: It would appear that these pills are prescribed to both children and adults. For almost all adults past the age of 20, there is not way it could work even though they say it will work for people up to the age of 30. As for children, if I was a researcher, I would want to do more research on the safety and potential harm of taking this herbs. We have seen in past posts that some supplements can poison the child and anything that causes children to get sick can potentially lead them to stunted growth. I would not recommend this program to kids to grow taller because the more likely outcome is that children will have their height stunted than increased through taking these pills which have ingredients derived from traditionally ayurvedic medicine system.