Review Of Claim To Widen Shoulder Bone, Lengthen Forearms, And Lengthen Lower Legs

Sugata, who is a regular reader of the website sent me this link to a website WiderShoulderBones.com which is claiming something new for me.

The people there claim that they have programs which can help you increase your shoulder width, lengthen your forearms, and lengthen the lower legs.

They seem to be based off of London, UK. The term “Harley Road” comes up over and over again for the website.

They state from the home page…

“Our achievements proves non surgical methods do work providing the correct methods are used and the right expertise is given. Bare in mind there are no known surgical methods that can widen the shoulder bones, this proves the individuals who have achieved wider shoulder bones in our Vlogs could only have achieved the results from using our program.”

Here we offer to reveal secrets that will help you to achieve the wider upper body frame you have always wanted. It is now possible to increase the width of your shoulder bones by just following our non-strenuous exercise program daily which is  specifically designed to widen the bones in your shoulders in just months. You can now add inches to the width of your shoulders without having to lift any weights to bulk up muscle mass on your shoulders to acquire the additional width you want. You can of course do both. Use our program to widen your bones on your shoulders to improve your existing frame for a better structural foundation and after add muscles by exercising with weights to achieve an even more impressive frame for perfection.

If what is preventing you from having the perfect physique is the lack of width on your shoulders, then look no further, you are unlikely to find anything more simple and effective to acquire wider shoulder ‘bones’ naturally anywhere else.

There are NO apparatus or dumb bells included with our exercise program.The only successful results are achieved with our shoulder widening program that specifically targets the BONES in your shoulders. This will mean lifting weights to bulk up muscle mass on your shoulders is no longer the only method to add extra width to your shoulders. Our exercise program targets the bones in your shoulders directly, widening them, to give you the extra width (from within) you want!.

What we have achieved, is successfully designed and identified exercises that have shown to widen shoulder bones over a relatively short period of time (for bone growth) even in fully grown adults (beyond the age of 21) If they’re performed regularly. The fact is the manipulation of the human skeleton is entirely possible (through exercise) to excite growth. This means applying the correct repetitive exertions (through exercise) to areas of significance on the human skeleton can stimulate new bones to grow. Our exercise program delivers on that exact principle which is recognized and purposely designed, when also performed to an optimal pace and duration will produce the best dynamics to invigorate the growth of new bones in the shoulders. Please make the right decision to choose a program that has already been tested to work. You don’t want to be wasting your time when you can be making progress instead.

Me: I can already guess what the possible idea they are proposing is, and it is based off the basic Wolff’s Law. If you apply some form of external loading stimuli to the shoulder bones, they will react and get thicker in terms of width. Remember that the shoulder bone is not a long bone so it doesn’t really have a longitudinal direction for them to go towards. The shoulder bone will get thicker and wider and that is the proposed idea. They say in the “How Is It Possible?” section that the program/ exercise involves the idea of tissue repairing themselves. They also briefly talk about cell hypertrophy and proliferation.

They state very clearly.. (I highlighted the most important parts)

The emphasis with our programs is not about creating high levels of stress to force the changes to the structure of the bones but on creating the right type of repetitive low levels of stress which had proven more effective to produce the results they are recognized to produce.

When ‘repetitive’ stress is exerted on your bones through exercise, depending on what exercises you perform, the stress will likely to create micro fractures (on a molecular level) in the bones. When the micro fractures heal they can change the structure of your bones (what changes occur will depend on the type of repetitive exercise you perform) minutely from each session of performing our exercises. Which type of micro fractures you create in the bones will depend on the level of stress is exerted on the bones. High levels of stress exerted on the bones from an exercise for example such as constant jumping and landing on your feet from high up can cause much more severe micro fractures in the bones in the lower legs, in those circumstances even after the micro fractures are healed, in exceptional rare cases, some problems can arise in the bones which can be corrected by surgery. What’s important is low levels of repetitive stress exerted on the bones can be healed by the body’s healing properties through the healing process without any problems arising at a later date, this serves our programs really well.

Bones can be altered (but not manipulated to grow) by a primitive method of applying constant pressure directly on the bones itself  for a long period of time which is similar to how dental braces work to reposition teeth. However our intelligent advance method of bone manipulation does not involve simply applying direct pressure on the bones itself but through exercises, we have designed, that delivers balanced low repetitive levels of stress (balanced exercises for balance growth) to the bones differently, hence will effect the bones in a different way. This enables the bones to be manipulated to grow in a way which otherwise be unthinkable.

When you exercise, your bones will also be put under stress, and if you exert enough of the right type of ‘repetitive’ low levels of stress over a certain period of time on the same area of bone/s, the result will cause enough stress to initiate the healing process, but its only possible through the repetitiveness of the right type of exercises and application, without the high enough repetitive nature of the exercises, it wont work, hence why most sports activities does not affect the structure of the bones.

Conclusion: In terms of the superficial scientific theory, they are actually completely right. In some ways, the program they offer can potentially lead to increased shoulder bone width size. You load the bone and it will get bigger in response, just like when you hit your skin hard, and then it become engorged with blood and results in a bump showing inflammation. They have figured out that a constant load wont do the trick so the idea is to use a dynamic, loading sequence (like tapping) to get the bone to respond. They say there is only two types of exercises you need to perform and they only take less than 8 minutes. The idea on microfractures is very similar to Sky’s old idea as well as Pierre Pozzuto’s theory too. You do the dynamic loading on the bone, they can potentially cause microfractures, and after the microfractures heal they do change the bone morphology. In terms of causing the shoulder bone to get bigger, that is theoretically possible if they hit the right area of the shoulder with a large enough area. If they use a small loading surface, that would only cause a section of the shoulder bone to enlarge. However I am not sure how much of an increase the bone will go through, although I am rather certain that the shoulder bone will respond by getting thicker, thus “bigger”. As for the claims that the programs can make the forearm and the lower leg bigger, they are using the same operating principle. If there is any increase in length of the lower limbs, that would be from loading in the bone protruding areas and the results would be from appositional growth responses. However this is a similar proposed belief by most people who are currently explaining away the results seen from people who have grown taller from LSJL.

As for the microfracture theory, I can say with some confidence from teh failure of Sky’s experiments that the microfracture theory and practice will probably not be successful, but the repetitive loading idea may cause bone thickness to increase.

The payment system they use is Paypal and I think they either send you a DVD through the mail or even give you an E-Product, which I have never believed in.

The School Of Height By A.S. Palko Book Arrived, Thanks Kazlina

Recently Kazlina (also goes by Nicki on some other height increase forums) who has been a contributor to the website/blog has been able to get the book School Of Height  and send me the PDF document of the entire book. The entire PDF will be added to the “Library” section of the website under technical books. You can get the PDF by clicking HERE.

The 7 sections are supposed to go…

    1. General preparation
    2. Specific flexibility
    3. Asymmetric exercises
    4. Nutrition 
    5. Pressure massage 
    6. Breathing and autogenic training
    7. Training aids 
The actual order of the PDF goes in order of 1, 2, 7, 6, 3, 4, 5

The first thing I noticed was that the book was not really a book but a 7 section piece written up a Palko, an orthopedic physician. It is really short at around only 20 pages. However the content in the pages are really interesting and something which I have not seen suggested before so it is worth looking into.

From a quick first skim, I’d say that the the nutrition part is bad advice. The stretching ideas is reasonable and should be slightly effective. There are two parts which are completely new and worth talking about.

The first part is the breathing and autogenic training section. What it seems to involve is using a breathing pattern with vizualization techniques for autosuggestion. This is a method which is very similar to the hypnosis ideas I’ve found in the past as well as having a slight resemblance to the qigong method Zixia talked about.

The second section worth looking at is the pressure massage section. In it, we are seeing the use of having plastic pins or needles being stuck in the area below the patella for a short time. From only a 5 minute analysis of this idea, it is similar to Tyler’s LSJL idea since we can think of the plastic as device that is compressing down on the tibia proximal epiphysis. The sad fact is that this “doctor” seems to be using some pseudoscience theory to justify the exercise feasibility.

The section on asymmetric exercises do suggest some reasonable ideas from a quick glance. He never claims more than 2-3 cms increase in height. His advice on muscle stretching runs counter to what common sense would say but it seems reasonable after further consideration.

Conclusion: This book raises some ideas and some are actually quite similar to ideas which we have seen before which were claimed to have had good results. I am not sure if this Palko guy was a real doctor and this guide for height increase neer had many reviewers of the material. I would say that for the height increase seeker, it is probably worth looking into the flexibility and exercise ideas. The visualization and hypnosis section probably won’t give results but it won’t hurt the practitioner. I can not claim it is a scam but there has been no test subjects, testimonials, or any older references to use to make a better judgement on the book.

Height Increase Arguments Using The Padaung Kayan Tribe Long Neck Females In Burma Is Incorrect

This post is to clear a very common height increase argument found on many other websites which say that with consistent tensile loading or stretching, one can get the human body to elongate.

I remember looking at the pages of National Geographic and seeing these females of some tribe in Southeast Asia and wondered when I was in elementary school how they managed to stretch their neck. For the average person who has not done the neccesary height increase research, the idea that one can increase one’ height from using the same basic principles as those females in the tribes who wear neck rings is plausible.

However what really happens is that the collar bone or clavicle in the frontal region of the sternum get compressed downward which creates more space for the rings to move into. If we analyze the skeletal structure of the upper body consisting of the skulls, cervical vertebrate, and the sternum we see that besides the clavicle, there is actually a large area of space between the shoulder blade and the vertebrate irregular bones which make up the neck. If we analyze the distribution of the neck rings, we note that as the rings descend down, their width and size do increase to take into account for the attachment of the vertebrate to the ribcage. Refer to skeleton pic HERE.

The coils are usually about 2-3 kgs in weight and the adult female usually has about 20 rings around their neck, although there seems to be cases where there are women with 25 rings.

From sources (source 2) we learn that the history and reason for this practiced is unknown but speculated. It was thought that maybe the females did this form of body deformation to make them unattractive for other tribes and invaders to want to marry them. From other sources it seems that not only do they have the rings to wear around their necks, they also have rings to wear on wrists and ankles and also elephant tusks which pierce the earlobe and over time stretching them out due to gravity.

The point is that the neck rings are not really stretching out the necks of the tribes women or making them taller. The clavicle bones in the front side of the body/torso gets pushed downwards. It turns out that the clavicle is one of the few long bones in the human body which is easily broken or dislocated from the other bones it is supposed to be attached to.

The metal bars pushing downwards on young woman can deform the cartilage on the sides as well as stretch out the ligaments attaching the clavicle to the sternal wall or the scapula/shoulder bone. If you manage to break past the clavicle, there is actually a large space or cavity which the rings can fall into. It creates the illusion that the women in this native tribe in Burma can stretch out their neck. However, it is just an illusion.

Male Bodybuilding May Be A Overcompensation Expression For Short Stature, Height Complex

I remember once finding this video from YouTube where it was a documentary about the days when our former Calfornia and actor Arnold Schwarzenegger giong through his bodybuilding days. It was called Pumpin Iron. I don’t know many guys who come to this website are bodybuilders but there was a small segment from the video which I found rather interesting. It’s at the 12:30-1240 mark. This guy who Arnold is showing how to pose for competitions explains one of his main reasons for bodybuilding.

His story is that his father is really tall but he ended up on the short side so he decided that if he can’t get as tall as his father, he can get as wide as his father. In classical psychology, people would call this an overcompensation. If you can not satisfy your first or real desire, you try to get better in a path that is similar to the first. From Youtube (source link).

When I remembered that there was a thread on the Make Me Taller forums about the former Guinness World Record holder for the world’s largest biceps, Greg Valentino. The thread was appropriately entitled “Greg Valentino and his Height Complex

From the Youtube video they linked HERE, you can hear around the 1:00-1:20 time frame him stating “…I’m only 5’5”. I have small man complex. And I just said, “man, if I can’t grow taller, I’m going to grow bigger and that’s exactly what I did…””

There are some really crazy videos on YouTube of a former Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman doing extremely heavy weights and I am stupified at his width and muscularity. He is built very solidly. When you get a closer analysis on his stats, it turns out that he is either 5′ 10 (source) or 5′ 11″ (source). From the profiles of other body builders, we see that most of them are not overtly tall. However that can be explained away from just normal physics. Shorter people have an easier ability to pack on the muscle in the right places and get wider. The taller you are, the more mass you will need to add to gain the type of size, definition, and cut. When you become the #1 in the world in almost anything, there is a sense of confidence and personal identity attached to that label or prestige. It would make sense that the best bodybuilders probably don’t worry too much about their height after the years go by with success but I do wonder whether the reason some guys start to go into bodybuilding is because of the height complex.

While these are only two instances they may indicate a bigger trend or pattern which I might not have noticed before. I have never gotten into bodybuilding myself but I remember very clearly seeing many of the same people in the University Fitness Center back in college. There was a term for them, “gym rats”. Most of them were not the tallest or the smallest but the one constant was that I would see them almost everyday there, no matter how heavy their course load was. They never got very big but they did exercise a lot.

Most of these guys were caucasian guys around the 5′ 10-6′ 2″ height range so they were average in height. Back then I didn’t care about how tall I was but I did notice that the really tall guys were never the ones who worked out very intensely, or even showed up. It was very surprising to see anyone over 6′ 4″ in the gym. Thinking back on it I theorize that maybe some of these guys might have been secretly or unconsciously trying to get more muscular or big because they were trying to overcompensate for their inability to become taller.

Thyroxine Regulates The Morphogenesis Of Isolated Chondrocytes Into Columnar Cartilage (Big Breakthrough)

I think this PubMed study is one of the biggest breakthroughs I have ever found on the possibility of reforming the Epiphyseal Plates. 

The articles is entitled “Thyroxine Is The Serum Factor That Regulates Morphogenesis Of Columnar Cartilage From Isolated Chondrocytes In Chemically Defined Medium” – Author: R. Tracy Ballock, & A. H. Reddit (source link) There is a full article PDF to the link above.

The first thing that I notice right away is that the primary author is Robert Ballock, who Tyler introduced me to the work in the very beginning when he directed me to the work of Zhang for the Loading Modalities and Ballock for his studies on regrowing and regenerating new growth plates.

Analysis: While I haven’t read the entire paper yet, the abstract reveals for the first time conclusive evidence that with a slight manipulation of the serum concentration in the medium, in terms of adding thyroxine, the chondrocytes developed into the stacking column architecture that is only seen in growth plates, and not any other type of hyaline, fibrocartilage, or articular cartilage. The 3-D aggregates all seem to have the columns in a certain directions which means that these chondrocyte pellets are basically small pieces of completely regenerated growth plates. Remember that the main difference between the growth plate cartilage and the other type of cartilages, even the other hyaline cartilage was the way the chondrocytes were able to align themselves on top of each other in columns.

Not only that, we see that the chondrocytes also are expressing the right type of Collagen, Type X, as well as the right level of alkaline phosphatates, which is the type you see in completely differentiated chondrocytes which means they are going through hypertrophy. The key growth regulator they found was that it was thyroxine.potentially, I would say now that you can take these newly formed “cartilage” pellets and implant them into human long bones in a thick enough defect section and the bones can theoretically lengthen due to the hypertrophic effects.

Abstract

Epiphyseal chondrocytes cultured in a medium containing 10% serum may be maintained as three dimensional aggregates and differentiate terminally into hypertrophic cells. There is an attendant expression of genes encoding type X collagen and high levels of alkaline phosphatase activity. Manipulation of the serum concentration to optimal levels of 0.1 or 0.01% in this chondrocyte pellet culture system results in formation of features of developing cartilage architecture which have been observed exclusively in growth cartilage in vivo. Cells are arranged in columns radiating out from the center of the tissue, and can be divided into distinct zones corresponding to the recognized stages of chondrocyte differentiation. Elimination of the optimal serum concentration in a chemically defined medium containing insulin eliminates the events of terminal differentiation of defined cartilage architecture. Chondrocytes continue to enlarge into hypertrophic cells and synthesize type X collagen mRNA and protein, but in the absence of the optimal serum concentration, alkaline phosphatase activity does not increase and the cells retain a random orientation. Addition of thyroxine to the chemically defined medium containing insulin and growth hormone results in dose-dependent increases in both type X collagen synthesis and alkaline phosphatase activity, and reproduces the optimal serum-induced morphogenesis of chondrocytes into a columnar pattern. These experiments demonstrate the critical role of thyroxine in cartilage morphogenesis.

Growth Plates Closure Direction For The Distal Fibula And Tibia Or Ankle Region, Tillaux Fracture

I was watching this youtube video (source link) and something the MD talked about I think is really important was the mention on how at least certain growth plates close. There seems to be a direction on how the growth plates close.

He was talking about a very specific type of growth plate injury that happens a lot to young kids who get injured playing sports. It is a special type of the Type III Salter Harris Fractures known as the Tillaux Fracture. The thing is that this type of fracture doesn’t really happen in adults only kids. What I learned is from the section 7:15-8:15 section of the video so if you want to skip to that part, that’s fine too. The thing is this…

Ankle growth plates don’t close uniformly but close from a medial to lateral direction.

We know that the fibula distal end is connected to the tibia with a ligament. This means that the medial side of the growth plate closes before the lateral side. Any type of torsional load (twisting) can cause the medial section which is attached to the fibula end can snap/ break off because of the fact that one side of the growth plate is ossified and has become bone while the other side might still have some cartilage left.