Me: As a continuation of the post I wrote before which showed how much an Internet Marketer makes selling E-Productes which promise height increase and to grow taller, I wanted to end the talk to show that even in internet boards and forums which use Black Hat SEO tricks and methods would not be willing to touch the height increase niche. This small niche that Tyler and me are in is one that is filled with scams, sales pages, and a web of backlinks and SEO to make people sign up for mailing lists, and buy 20 page E-Products.

This was a post I found from BlackHatWorld.Com, which is a board where Internet Marketers which purposely choose to use Black Hat SEO to increase in the google rankings. As you see not even these guys who intentionally are using dishonesty are not going to touch the height increase niche. Only two people replied back and they didn’t like what the guy was doing because they realized this product he was selling would have a high refund rate. The product is from this website GrowTallerFormula.Com which I don’t remember whether I ever reviewed or put on the scam section.

On a related note, there was another post I found from the google rankings which showed that on the WarriorForums.Com somebody wanted to sell the E-Book “Grow Taller 4 Idiots” because on the Clickbank Database this product has a VERY high “Gravity” number. The term gravity is used in the ClickBankf community to show how  “hot” is a product and how well it is sold. The higher the gravity value, the more likely people would want to be afiliate marketers and create new sales webpages to link to the product and sell it. I put a pick of a clipping of the screen which shows the gravity value of this product. The response from most of the repliers is that the product is a scam product which they didn’t want to promote since it only causes the IM community look bad. One man even got extremely angry against a poster who used to sell the product and sort of cussed him out for being so sleazy in his Internet Marketing practices.

The poster goes by MovingAround. This is his message (link source HERE)

People like you truly disgust me.

You take advantage of people who have low-self esteem and rip them off their money. You see, there’s a lot of money to be made out of people’s low self-esteem, even if the product you are promoting is complete rubbish.

The epiphyseal plates fully fuse by about age 18-21 and the last bone to grow is the collarbone which ends its growth at age 25. No amount of snake oil will make you grow taller, unless in that book you have found the miracle to making your DNA revert the fusing process and start adding osseous tissue again to the ends of the vertical bones. Not even injecting growth hormone after the epiphyseal plates fuse will lead to an increase in stature (it will, instead, thicken the bones and increase their density). Human growth hormone is the only proven method to increase stature in adolescents (even in those who are not deficient in this hormone) and works best with the use of an anabolic steroid. This therapy can only be monitored under strict supervision of a specialist in the medical field as it can have side effects (increased risk of cancer and development of Type II diabetes). 

This product you have promoted is utter bullshit. I dare you or whoever came up with that product to show me one reputable doctor (preferably an endocrinologist who graduated from a top medical school, thank you) who says that you can still grow after your epiphyseal plates are fused. Come on, show me one.

This product is what’s wrong with the IM niche. Utter fraudulent products making it through because there is no regulation. Of course, the product itself will play with words to make it sound like the initial claims stand up but that’s how these sort of products make money. It will also talk about hanging oneself from space boots and the likes which leads to temporary increases in stature as the vertebrae are decompressed (you can also do this by sleeping 8 hours!!).

I was casually browsing the forum and not even planning to log in but the epic fraud of this product made me want to post this. It actually pains me to see how people who are short in stature waste away their money because when you target people’s self-esteem, anything goes. You, as an IMer, have a responsibility to also check your product and see that you are not frauding, but hey, all hail the quick buck.

Disgusting.

Me: From BlackHatWorld.com link, the post is below…

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Me: I felt that I should take some time today to show the readers just how much money the internet marketers make online selling E-Products and E-Books on creating a few sales pages selling grow taller and height increase products.

This post was found after I typed in “Height Increase Niche” into Google and the result showed a discussion post which was on the WarriorForum.com, which is the #1 discussion board and forum on the internet for internet marketers to peddle their stuff and sell to people. (link HERE)

What is amazing was that this is from 2009, and from just 1 month of being uploaded, from April 29 to May 21, it had made $275. It gets about 30-40 unique visitors a day from back then selling the E-product “Grow Taller 4 Idiots”. By August 24, it had made $338. The poster goes by the name of Sasha from New Delhi, India. He was trying to sell his website and looking for a few hundred for it.

What is absolutely amazing is that this website NaturalHeightIncrease.Com selling the E-product has almost the exact same name as my website. I once had to compete against this website for traffic and it was beating me on “key words” and “key phrases“. Only recently have I been able to overcome the SEO tricks it was implementing to rank higher on Google by writing high levels of content.

Note: Everything below this message is what the poster put up on the Warrior Forums Board.

When I wrote a post last time where I created a proposed method to possibly increase height using BMP injections into the intervertebral disks in the back entitled “New Proposed Height Increase Method Using PEMF, BMP-7, BMP-6, And TGF-Beta3” my biggest issue was wondering how we could possibly get the BMP inside into the disks and get them to start the cell proliferation since the disks were surrounded by the annulus fibrosus.

My new proposed method has found a way to get around that difficulty by using this newly discovered method of Extracorporeal shockwave treatment  ESWT. Since the annulus fibrosus is made of the same type of material as the achilles tendon, which is collagenous fibers, the shockwaves can get the nucleus of the fibers to increase the expression of IGF-1 and TGF-Beta 1 while at the same time transmitting the BMP from the gauze to seep into the collagen  fibrils and reach the middle gelatinous area.

Overall this is one of the best ideas I have come up with so far since I can’t see any technical issues with this method. In my mind, this technique should work to create at least a height increase of at least 1 cm.

Of course the difficulty would be in finding where we can get the equipment to send around 3000 impulses of shockwave at intensity around 0.2 mJ/mm^2 at a 2-3 day interval blocks.

Me: This is just even more evidence and studies which goes deeper in the research to find how relevant the ESWT method might be in allowing bones to increase in length.

From study 1…

From the introduction of the PDF paper the authors note that loading, LIPUS, and PEMF has not bee very effective by stating…” Biophysical stimuli such as mechanical vibration, ultrasound, and pulsed electromagnetic fields have been suggested as an alternative treatment, but these stimuli seem to have too little effect on bone remodeling and bone architecture 1-4. Another potentially useful biophysical intervention that has proven effective for acute fractures 5 and nonunions 6-8 is treatment with extracorporeal shock waves” This states right off the bat that ESWT may be better than the other stuff we have researched so far. The treatment did lead to some skin redness and bleeding. We see an increase in bone formation, trabecular bone volume, and other bone properties. It seems the ESWT has some form of analgesic effect so an increase in energy flux density which is gradual may actually help the pain sensitivity. the conclusion they see is…”In conclusion, a single treatment with unfocused extracorporeal shock waves can increase bone turnover and improve the cancellous and cortical bone architecture as well as the mechanical properties of the treated area. In this experimental setup, extracorporeal shock waves caused damage in the bone marrow, which resulted in hyperplasia and hypertrophy of adipocytes in the bone marrow but did not induce microfractures in the bone or periosteal damage.”

From study 2…

The researchers decided to try out applying ESW therapy as a noninvasive, inexpensive, and rapid method for stimulating cambium cell proliferation, and combining these cells with a bioactive scaffold for bone growth. The cambium cells are part of the periosteum called osteoprogenitor cells. Just one dosage of the ESWT managed to get the cambium cells and overal bone thickness to increase as well as the callus size.

From study 3…

These researchers showed that not only does ESWT cause osteogenesis but also can regenerate fibrocartilage and remodel the  bone to tendon junction in joints.

From the Journal of Bone and And Joint Surgery study article link HERE…

Unfocused Extracorporeal Shock Waves Induce Anabolic Effects in Rat Bone

By O.P. van der Jagt, MD, T.M. Piscaer, MD, W. Schaden, J. Li, PhD, N. Kops, H. Jahr, PhD, J.C. van der Linden, PhD,
J.H. Waarsing, PhD, J.A.N. Verhaar, MD, PhD, M. de Jong, PhD, and H. Weinans, PhD

Investigation performed at the Department of Orthopaedics, Erasmus MC, University Medical Center Rotterdam, The Netherlands

Background:

Extracorporeal shock waves are known to stimulate the differentiation of mesenchymal stem cells toward osteoprogenitors and induce the expression of osteogenic-related growth hormones. The aim of this study was to investigate if and how extracorporeal shock waves affected new bone formation, bone microarchitecture, and the mechanical properties of bone in a healthy rat model, in order to evaluate whether extracorporeal shock wave therapy might be a potential treatment for osteoporosis.

Methods:

Thirteen rats received 1000 electrohydraulically generated unfocused extracorporeal shock waves to the right tibia. The contralateral, left tibia was not treated and served as a control. At two, seven, twenty-one, and forty-nine days after administration of the shock waves, in vivo single-photon-emission computed tomography (SPECT) scanning was performed to measure new bone formation on the basis of uptake of technetium-labeled methylene diphosphonate (99m Tc-MDP) (n = 6). Prior to and forty-nine days after the extracorporeal shock wave therapy, micro-computed tomography (micro-CT) scans were made to examine the architectural bone changes. In addition, mechanical testing, microcrack, and histological analyses were performed.

Results:

Extracorporeal shock waves induced a strong increase in 99m Tc-MDP uptake in the treated tibia compared with the uptake in the untreated, control tibia. Micro-CT analysis showed that extracorporeal shock waves stimulated increases in both trabecular and cortical volume, which resulted in higher bone stiffness compared with that of the control tibiae. Histological analysis showed intramedullary soft-tissue damage and de novo bone with active osteoblasts and osteoid in the bone marrow of the legs treated with extracorporeal shock waves. Microcrack analysis showed no differences between the treated and control legs.

Conclusions:

This study shows that a single treatment with extracorporeal shock waves induces anabolic effects in both cancellous and cortical bone, leading to improved biomechanical properties. Furthermore, treatment with extracorporeal shock waves results in transient damage to the bone marrow, which might be related to the anabolic effects. After further examination and optimization, unfocused extracorporeal shock waves might enable local treatment of skeletal sites susceptible to fracture.

Clinical Relevance:

Unfocused extracorporeal shock waves might in the future be used to increase bone mass and
subsequently reduce the fracture risk.

From study 2 link HERE…

The Use of Extracorporeal Shock Wave-Stimulated Periosteal Cells for Orthotopic Bone Generation

To cite this article:
Cathal J. Kearney, Huping P. Hsu, and Myron Spector. Tissue Engineering Part A. July 2012, 18(13-14): 1500-1508. doi:10.1089/ten.tea.2011.0573.

Published in Volume: 18 Issue 13-14: July 16, 2012
Online Ahead of Print: June 4, 2012
Online Ahead of Editing: April 20, 2012

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Me: I wanted to go deeper in the research for this method because it looks very promising as another tool. In my opinion, it might be better than LIPUS in helping achieve height increase.

From study 1…

The researchers tried the application of radial extracorporeal shock wave therapy (rESWT) to get bones to growth and form. There was 4000 impulses of the shock waves used on one of the hind legs of 13 rabbits. The other is not treated with rESWT as the control. after a week the shockwaves were doen again. What they found was that the rESWT significantly increase new bone formation at all time points throughout the study’s time period. It is interesting that the rate of bone formation was at the maximum at 4 weeks. The most amazing thing was the the location of the long bone which was closest to the shock wave application was where the most bone formation was found. It seems that the ESWT induced osteogenesis is dosage dependent. The best thing is that so trauma like hemmorhage or microfractures were found. The researchers conclude with “This is the first study demonstrating low-energy radial shock waves to induce new bone formation in vivo. Based on our results, repetition of ESWT in 6-week intervals can be recommended.”

From study 2…

The researchers found that using ESWT was safe and a great alternative for fracture/ non union healing. It seemed to work better for tropic nonunions (with calluses) than atropic nonunions (without calluses). The study dosage is …”The shock waves were applied in 3-5 sessions of 2500 to 3000 impulses each given at 0.25-0.84 mJ/mm2, at intervals of 48-72 hours between sessions. A maximum of 3 cycles of treatment was given, at 3-month intervals.” The healing reduced the time needed for a large percentage but a smaller percentage did not see any healing.

From study 3...

This is another study which comfirms that ESWT is amazing. It has been used to heal achilles tendinitis and the researchers in this study wanted to shows that it heals the tendinitis by increasing the expression of TGF-Beta1 and IGF-1. The study varied the impulse dosage from 0, 200, 500, and 1000 impulses. The optimal dosage for the mice in the study was around 200 impulse at around 0.2 mJ/mm^2. Through out the entire study the expression of IGF-1 was elevated dramatically. It seems to show that cell proliferation, cell hypertrophy, and tissue regeneration were all effects. There was also a proliferation of tenocytes and neovascularization (new blood vessels).

From ScienceDirect.com study link HERE…

Radial Extracorporeal Shock Wave Therapy (rESWT) Induces New Bone Formation in vivo: Results of an Animal Study in Rabbits

Abstract

The aim of this study was to investigate if radial extracorporeal shock wave therapy (rESWT) induces new bone formation and to study the time course of ESWT-induced osteogenesis. A total of 4000 impulses of radial shock waves (0.16 mJ/mm²) were applied to one hind leg of 13 New Zealand white rabbits with the contralateral side used for control. Treatment was repeated after 7 days. Fluorochrome sequence labeling of new bone formation was performed by subcutaneous injection of tetracycline, calcein green, alizarin red and calcein blue. Animals were sacrificed 2 weeks (n = 4), 4 weeks (n = 4) and 6 weeks (n = 5) after the first rESWT and bone sections were analyzed by fluorescence microscopy. Deposits of fluorochromes were classified and analyzed for significance with the Fisher exact test. rESWT significantly increased new bone formation at all time points over the 6-week study period. Intensity of ossification reached a peak after 4 weeks and declined at the end of the study. New bone formation was significantly higher and persisted longer at the ventral cortex, which was located in the direction to the shock wave device, compared with the dorsal cortex, emphasizing the dose-dependent process of ESWT-induced osteogenesis. No traumata, such as hemorrhage, periosteal detachment or microfractures, were observed by histologic and radiologic assessment. This is the first study demonstrating low-energy radial shock waves to induce new bone formation in vivo. Based on our results, repetition of ESWT in 6-week intervals can be recommended. Application to bone regions at increased fracture risk (e.g., in osteoporosis) are possible clinical indications.

Me: For me this is quite possibly the biggest find I have encountered in a long time and a major breakthrough. I know that the LIPUS technology used low intensity pulsed sound waves but this approach is the exact opposite, which uses high intensity shockwaves to get bones to heal. The amount of research and information out there is very high and it’s application for bone remodeling is high as well.

From study 1…

What we are seeing is that the ESWT technology has been around and acknowledged by medical professionals for at least 2 decades. This study shows that just like the PEMF and LIPUS technology, it can cause bone fractures or non-unions to heal together. The amount of high intensity pulsed wave is 6000 at 28kV in one session. A amall sample of blood was taken to test for NO level, TGF-Beta 1, VEGF, and BMP2, as well as calcium, alkaline phosphatase, calcitonin, and parathyroid hormone during 5 time zones, before the treatment, 1 day afterwards, and 1,3,and 6 months afterwards. In over 3/4th of the patients, there was union of the fracture. It seems that shockwaves caused an increase in the NO level and other osteogenic growth factors.

From study 2...

It seems that the ESWT technology has been used quite extensively in recent years as an alternative treatment from surgery. There are success in clinical and in vitro studies. The final conclusion…”FGF-2, an important growth factor in new bone formation, was shown to be produced by human fibroblasts and osteoblasts after treatment with ESWT. These findings demonstrate that ESWT is able to cause bone healing through a molecular way by inducing growth factor synthesis.”

From study 3…

Apparently the researchers have already looked into how to increase the long bong longitudinal growth rate by “We have studied several possibilities in order to stimulate longitudinal growth by means of enhancement of the vascular supply to the growth plate through perforations, implants or electromagnetic pulses.” So they looked into make a distraction, adding implants, and trying out E&M pulses like the PEMF technology. In this specific study it is stated…”we explored the effects of Extracorporeal Shockwave Therapy (ESWT) in the same animal model, to determine a possible longitudinal bone growth stimulation“. This is huge!! It is almost very much like the noninvasive electrical device patent we looked at a month back. The performed it on 24 rabbits putting the ESW stimulation on the tibia and femur using both a mid level pulse and a high level pulse. The left limbs were treated with 2000 pulses. There doesn’t seem to be any differences in cell count, fracture formation, periosteal reaction. However the longitudinal increase was 4.1% on average for all the limbs.

From PubMed study 1 link HERE…

Nitric Oxide. 2009 Jun;20(4):298-303. Epub 2009 Mar 10.

The effects of shockwave on bone healing and systemic concentrations of nitric oxide (NO), TGF-beta1, VEGF and BMP-2 in long bone non-unions.