Ever since I found the stories of women who have claimed to have increased in height during pregnancy I decided to do a quick search on google for stories, anecdotal evidence, and posts by women who claim they had gotten taller.

Me: If you read through the comments left by other moms you realize that this phenomena seems to be far more common than I ever expected. Of the 17 replies this women got, a good 2 of them said that they saw an increase in height beyond what would obviously be measurement error. The crazy anedotal story is the man’s wife who grew a “couple” inches when she was 30 and on her 3rd child. Wow, what is going on? Of course it is important to realize that a few of the replies stated that they actually lost height from the pregnancy. I don’t know what to take from this post and the replies except be more confused now.

From this post on an Australian Huggies web board HERE the poster says that she grew 1.5 cm during her pregnancy.

Here is one from CafeMom (source link HERE)

Height growth during pregnancy

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• Summer222009

on Jul. 6, 2011 at 3:54 AM

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• Vipergirl22

Jessica on Jul. 6, 2011 at 5:38 AM

haha I would like to know that answer too…be interesting if it is true.

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• KaroGreenly

Karo on Jul. 6, 2011 at 8:30 AM

How old are you? Maybe you just weren’t finished growing to begin with.

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• .Angelica.

Angie on Jul. 6, 2011 at 9:29 AM

I have heard of this happening. Consider yourself lucky if you wanted to be taller I guess. LOL.

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• .Angelica.

Angie on Jul. 6, 2011 at 9:30 AM

A guy my DH works with, when his wife was pregnant with her 3rd child and I think right around 30 she grew a couple inches. So she should have for sure been done growing.

Quoting KaroGreenly:

How old are you? Maybe you just weren’t finished growing to begin with.

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• Summer222009

on Jul. 6, 2011 at 2:40 PM

I’m 19 but my growth plates have stopped when I was 12.

Quoting KaroGreenly:

How old are you? Maybe you just weren’t finished growing to begin with.

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• momoftwins_2

on Jul. 6, 2011 at 4:34 PM

My feet grew but I didn’t get taller

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• ATG499

Wendy on Jul. 6, 2011 at 5:22 PM

I didn’t get any taller during my pregnancy.

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• alyciajoseph

on Jul. 6, 2011 at 7:42 PM

Mine too 🙁

Quoting momoftwins_2:

My feet grew but I didn’t get taller

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• remaining_me

Kay on Jul. 6, 2011 at 7:55 PM

 hmm i never heard of that, lol i didnt get any taller. wider? yes, lol.

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• remaining_me

Kay on Jul. 6, 2011 at 7:57 PM

 yeah, i permanently went up a half size with my second. I never knew they actually GREW, odd enough. i thought they just swell up.

Quoting momoftwins_2:

My feet grew but I didn’t get taller

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• Maddies-Mommy

Member on Jul. 7, 2011 at 2:24 AM

I didn’t get taller, however I went up a shoe size. It was weird, they didn’t swell they just got longer and three years later they are still that size.

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• lovealot0587

on Jul. 7, 2011 at 2:32 AM

I’m not too sure

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• hayvensmommy07

Bronze Member on Jul. 7, 2011 at 9:03 AM

I was 5’2 before my son. Now I’m 5 foot. Yea I shrank. How I have no idea so if I can shrink then I would think women could get taller too.

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• JayBearsmomma

Rachael on Jul. 7, 2011 at 9:47 AM

lol I shrunk and1/2 inch ! I was 5’2 for the longest then at my 6 week check up I was 5’1 1/2

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• YouGotToLoveIt

on Sep. 9, 2011 at 8:11 PM

Hi,

This is my first attempt to investigate my growth during pregnancy on the web.  Although I have a friend who grew 1 1/2 inches during her 3rd pregnancy and only daughter.

I am now 60 and had my only child when I was 36.  I grew 3/4 of an inch during pregnancy.  I tried to document this growth with any of my doctors and they all made excuses saying that they wrote down my original height incorrectly.  It was very frustrating because my original height was 5 feet 4 3/4 inches and I always tried to stand super tall when measured so that I could say I was 5 feet 5 inches even.  My final height is 5 feet 5 1/2 inches.

Thanks for this forum.  It is nice to know that I am not alone.

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• Girl_Charlie

on Sep. 9, 2011 at 9:39 PM

And you thought that a “young moms” group was the place to go? Even 24 years ago, 36 was on the upper side of having children, not the young side.

Quoting YouGotToLoveIt:

Hi,

This is my first attempt to investigate my growth during pregnancy on the web.  Although I have a friend who grew 1 1/2 inches during her 3rd pregnancy and only daughter.

I am now 60 and had my only child when I was 36.  I grew 3/4 of an inch during pregnancy.  I tried to document this growth with any of my doctors and they all made excuses saying that they wrote down my original height incorrectly.  It was very frustrating because my original height was 5 feet 4 3/4 inches and I always tried to stand super tall when measured so that I could say I was 5 feet 5 inches even.  My final height is 5 feet 5 1/2 inches.

Thanks for this forum.  It is nice to know that I am not alone.

 

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• JayBearsmomma

Rachael on Sep. 9, 2011 at 10:28 PM

Lol I shrunk half an inch

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There’s a study that says pregnancy can increase bone turnover. This may be partially the cause of the height gain as bone turnover equals more plastically deformable bones.

The effect of pregnancy on bone density and bone turnover

“We studied 16 women longitudinally, with baseline measurements before pregnancy; then at 16, 26, and 36 weeks of pregnancy; and postpartum. We measured total-body BMD and biochemical markers of bone resorption (urinary pyridinium crosslinks and telopeptides of type I collagen) and bone formation (serum bone alkaline phosphatase, propeptides of type I procollagen [PINP] and osteocalcin). We also measured parathyroid hormone (PTH), insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I), and human placental lactogen. Postpartum, BMD increased in the arms (2.8%, P < 0.01) and legs (1.9%, P < 0.01) but decreased in the pelvis (-3.2%, P < 0.05) and spine (-4.6%, P < 0.01) compared with prepregnancy values. All biochemical markers, with the exception of osteocalcin concentration, increased during pregnancy. The change in IGF-I at 36 weeks was related to the change in biochemical markers (e.g., PINP, r = 0.72, P = 0.002). Pregnancy is a high-bone-turnover state. IGF-I levels may be an important determinant of bone turnover during pregnancy. Elevated bone turnover may explain trabecular bone loss during pregnancy.”

“The involuting uterus is also a possible source of collagen degradation products. The uterus is predominantly composed of type I collagen; pyridinoline (Pyd) is the principal cross-link, and deoxypyridinoline (Dpd) is present in only trace amounts. The collagen content of the uterus increases approximately sevenfold during pregnancy. An increase in the Pyd/Dpd ratio during the puerperium would indicate a contribution to maternal cross-link excretion from uterine collagen.”

“Previous studies have reported decreased serum intact osteocalcin during pregnancy.”

“there appears to be a loss of bone density at trabecular bone sites and an increase at cortical bone sites during pregnancy. Bone turnover is increased with the increase in bone resorption preceding that of formation.”

When I was doing research for my post on the possiblity of injecting GH or BMPs into the feet to increase it’s size, I seemed to have come across a very interesting phenomena which might help a little in our search. It turns out that during and after pregnancy, the women often has her hands, feet, extremities enlarge in size, and that size increase never goes away.

You can see from all the comments that this is a very common phenomena. The comments by other mothers on the link at Baby Center continues for 5 more pages all telling their stories. There seems to be this hormone relaxin which loosens the joints in their feet, causing the foot bone sto spread. However, that doesn’t seem to explain why it is that even after pregnancy, the feet stays in that enlarged size. I wonder whether it might also be that the very bones also thickened and lengthened in size.

The stories show that the fingers get thicker. The feet gets longer, which could indicate either the feet being squeezed and spread out, or maybe the bones are indeed getting longer.

The most crazy comment I saw from the post was on the second page (link HERE) where the mother said this!!

Update: It seems that a 2nd mother posted that she had grown taller during pregnancy as well on the 4th page of comments!! (HERE)

From BabyCenter.Com…

Expert Answers

I think my feet have grown. Is this possible?

I was sitting around writing up another post today when I realized that I currently have 1 technique to increase the length of the legs, another to increase the length of the torso, but what about the other areas? I thought about the head but there is not a lot I could think of at the time except wear taller hats like Abe Lincoln. I moved to the feet and I had a rather simple idea.

We know that from the condition of gigantism and acromegaly that the extremities and localized regions in a person can be enlarged and made bigger through a lot of growth hormones. Anthony Robbins and Shaq are known for having extremely large hands and feet. Obviously Robbins large hands and teeth are from his pituitary issue.

So why can’t we just buy some growth hormones, somatotropin, the real stuff and inject some into the blood vessels that reach out feet? given enough time, the irregular bones in the feet should expand in width. Since the layout of the long bones in the feet is flat on the ground, any increase in width of the long bones and irregular bones will only cause the distance between the bones and the ground to increase, which is effectively increasing height.

From this link HERE we find a male who states that his feet grew more than 1 shoe size when he is 28.

We know that the calcaneus is the heel bone at the back of the feet. Any increase of this bone will cause the entire body to be pushed up. I had in a previous post talked about feet heel implants to increase in height and that was implants at the calcaneus. I would say that a person who tries to inject growth hormones or BMPs into the blood stream that feed the mineralization and maintenance of the bones in the feet will lead to enlarged bones and cause some height increase, say 1-1.5 cm throughout a 1-5 year range time.

The height gain will be minimal and probably would lead to possible deformity and disfigurement but my point for this idea is a possible proof of concept.

Heel spurs may be another way to increase height:

The plantar calcaneal spur: a review of anatomy, histology, etiology and key associations

So it specifically needs to be the lateral process of tuberosity.

Here’s some bone spurs:

” projections of larger than 1 or 2 mm”<-bone spur size.

“The prevalence of PCS increases with weight”

“The prevalence of PCS increases in older age groups”

“PCS consists of a core of mature lamellar bone and demonstrates evidence of degeneration and fibro-cartilaginous proliferation, along with one or more of intramembranous, chondroidal and endochondral ossification occurring at the surface”

“There is a statistically significant correlation between foot pronation and the development of PCS, with 62% of patients with a spur and 81% with a painful spur having a pronated foot radiographically”<-flat feet

“general tendency toward ossification of ligaments”

“over half of PCS are not within the PF or the intrinsic muscles of the foot but rather are surrounded by loose connective tissue”

“the epiphysis of the calcaneus extends down to the plantar aspect and that repetitive trauma results in PCS formation”

“repetitive trauma with low forces can cause histological changes and as the impact force is increased, fewer repetitions are required”

This was an idea that I have been thinking about ever since I found and reviewed the study which showed that BMP-7 (aka OP-1) injections into a mice and sheep’s vertebrate lead to the regain of lost height and health of degenerating disks.

My idea is to create a type of padding or guase  which you would have BMP-7 and BMP-6 with TGF-Beta3 embedded in the padding. Dexamethasone might also help. Certain BMPs and growth factors have been shown to both lead to chondrogenesis and osteogenesis. BMP-6 is really good at osteogenesis. We are looking for those. The padding has these notches and bumps, with the bumps alligned with the location of the intervertebral disks. The padding is pressed agains tthe back skin, with small needles that can inject the growth factors  right next to the disks. Remember that the disks have an outer concentric layer (outer annulus fibrosus)  and the inner circular layer (nucleus pulposus (NP). The outer layer is what the growth factors have to both get around and into. There is still some cartilage in the vertebrate even after we have reached physical maturity.

The padding can be just even 1 cm thick and can be refilled like a syringe which the nurse replaces when she is collecting a lot of blood from you. The BMP will theoretically be soaked into the vertebral disks leading to first chondrogenesis, increased nucleus pulposus function (and maybe even size), and finally ossification leading to increased thickness in the disks causing torso and height lengthening. The sequence of body physiology can be controlled by manipulating the injected device to switch from one type of growth factor into another. The pads can be wrapped around the body with either velcro or an elastic strap.

The second part of the idea was to use PEMF technology on the sides of the disks and give short duration, low intensity sine wave electrically capacitive signals to stimulate the collagenous material… At this point I would like to test the PEMF idea on the collagenous fibers of the annulus fibrosus so see if they would get any larger.

Overall, this idea is rather simple to try out even at home. The hard part may be getting BMP-7 and the TGF-Beta 3 from a non-natural source.

From PubMed Study 1 HERE

Spine J. 2008 May-Jun;8(3):466-74. Epub 2007 Jun 26.

Bone morphogenetic protein-7 protects human intervertebral disc cells in vitro from apoptosis.

Me: After going back and reading on my old posts on the power of possibly using BMPs to induce chondrocytes and also heal and regenerate articular cartilage, I have created a new idea on how it might be possible to induce longitudinal growth using a combination of at least 3 main ideas I have been exploring for the last 3 months. This a culmination of all of my learning and research so far. You can see from another post way back entitled” Increase Height Through Surgical Method By Cartilage Harvesting And Chondrocyte Implantation With Growth Factor Injections” that I tried also at that time to think up a possible height increase less invasive surgical path as well, but this new method is more likely to work out and the procedure is more detailed, due to new understanding and research. 

Note: One of the biggest issues we have to understand is what exactly are the differences between the articular cartilage found at the end of the long bones and the original growth plates we had. Remember that both of these cartilage ar hyaline to begin with. The major differences are…

1. The epiphyseal has a perichondrium, the articular does not.

2. The epiphyseal cartilage is created from two centers of ossification, a primary and secondary. The articular cartilage does not.  This means that the epiphyseal is directly connected to layers of trabecular bone which house progenitor cells on both sides. The articular does not.

3. The epiphyseal has a resting zone area, the articular does not.

One idea I originally thought about is try to get the articular cartilage to behave as much like the growth plates as possible.

Note: The other big thing we would have to get right is the right growth factor combination. At this point I am guessing to use BMP-7 (obviously), TGF-Beta2 & 3 (since there have been articles that showed that BMPs need it to work out), BMP-2 since it is the only other BMP that leads to chondorgenesis. We want to avoid BMPs which give better results for osteogenesis but have shown to result in chondrogenesis. The other big one I wanted to use was GDFs which are growth differentiation factors. 

So Step 1…

You create two chondral defects through the knee which connects the inner epiphysis trabecular bone with the articular cartilage. This can be done through two holes punctures through the cartilage of a bend knee (from diagram above). The puncture can be just 2-3 mm in diameter (from study 1). I would suggest using a diameter of 4-5 mm if that is possible. The exact location the punctures will go through will be the trochlea and the femoral condyle (from study 2). The penetration will be through the hard bone, into the epiphysis until it reaches the axis distance where the original epiphyseal plates will be (from X-ray).

Note: From this diagram on the right it suggest that even after the epiphyseal line is gone, there seems to be still a band of trabecular bone which might be slightly thicker and denser in the area where the epiphysis and metaphysis are connect than in other areas in the inner bone. That is the line you want to reach, but right before you hit that thick band of dense bone. 

Step 2….

You implant a type of capsule which has a specific mixture of  growth factors that focuses on chondrogenesis, not osteogenesis. The growth factors can be encapsulated in a collagen and proteoglycan mixture. It is essentially cartilage matrix with growth factors inside but no chondrocytes. The mixture will have BMP-7 and BMP-2 which has shown to help differentiate the progenitor cells in the right way to give you the type of cell desired . You want to avoid types of growth factors which are mainly osteogenic.

We know that adult marrow is mostly yellow marrow of adiposytes and fatty acids. Study 5 suggest using instead BMP-6 and TGF-Beta 3 to convert them into chondrocytes. Remember that the bones are one of the tissues that regenerate and heal the fastest. That means that one must focus less on bone healing and more on how to get the cartilage to expand.

Step 3…

After the implant capsule of growth factors, you implant another capsule that has chondrocytes encased surrounded by a perichondrium layer. This is actual growth plate cartilage grown in vitro. I have researched one study that has shown that in vitro growth plates have been developed and can be reapplied back to function properly in vivo. Study 3 showed that chondorcytes can be differentiated from using perichondrium with BMP-7 so this step should be easy.

Step 4…

You make a cut around the outer edge of the long bone right at the distance where the initial penetration was done. You remove 3-4 mm in thickness axially of outer bone which will be the periosteum but also 4-5 cm radially inward. This is to remove the outer hard cortical bone. The other reason you want it to be at least this thick, is to prevent bone repair. If the created fracture was any thinner the bones will automatically heal over it. You implant resting zone progenitor cells in these locations which are surrounded in cartilage which is themselves surrounded by perichondrium.

Step 5…

A type of gause wrapping with BMP-7 and other growth factors in it which promote chondrogenesis is wrapped around the incision location and the cartilage implant. This has two functions. One is to prevent the cartilage inside the epiphysis to push out laterally. The other is to be a source of more growth factor to get the outer cartilage implant to push inward.

Step 6…

You fill up the original knee chondral defect first using a type of ostegenic BMP like 6 or 9 with TGF-Beta 3 (study 5), and later use a chondrogenic growth factor like BMP-7 which has shown to regrow the articular cartilage (from study 2).

Step 7…

What this method have effectly done is removed every single contraint the long bone has which would restrict longitudinal growth. We learned that the compressive strength of long bone is from the calcium hydroxylapatite in the inorganic matric which leads to the hard dense cortical bone to have a youngs modulus yield of upwards of 150 MPa. The tensile strength is from collagen fibrils arranged in lamellae (source is from previous post HERE). This is around 100 MPa. Since step 4 means the hardest material is fractured at a level which the body’s natural osteogenetic, most of the high value of young’s modulus tensile strength from the intact long bone will be gone. It will be just the trabecular bone which is holding the bone attached in that location and that can be stretched relatively easily by the chondrocytes if they go through hypertrophy.

If we remember, the way that the original ilizarov method works, and how distraction osteogenesis works in general is from callus distraction, which means you pull the trabecular bones apart over time. What is great about this method is that Since step 4 is done in the thicker area, you should not need the fixator to hold things stable unlike the ilizarove method, where the fracture created makes the long bone very weak and can break in half since the fracture was made around the middle (or diaphysis) of the long bone. This is one of the reasons you needed an external fixator to keep things stable and fixed so the inner bone which you had not separated wouldn’t move, causing deformities.

Step 8…

What you have done is basically created an entirely new growth plate similar to what the body’s original prenatal ossification development was like. Remember that the growth plate was formed from two primary ossification centers, My idea is to create two places which sort of goes through chondrocyte proliferation embedding into the bone matrix in the ossification process which will eventually come together fusing into another growth plate in the inside of the lone bone which is around the same location as the natural one.

If you have studied physics you might remember the calculations you have had to do for electrical fields or magnetic fields of a type of 3 dimensional body form called an annulus. I am treating the long bone as a concentric annulus. where the outer most circular region has cartilage implantation and the inner circle has cartilage implantation. The growth factors from both the inside implant and the outside implant  will diffuse into the surrounding bones turning any adult fatty acid marrow MCSs into chondrocytes. If that is sustained, the osteoclasts can clean up most of the dead bone lucanae. If the calcium crystals are hard to remove, we can swing the PTH/TH control so that calcium can be removed from the bones and goes back into the blood stream.

Any expansion the implanted cartilage will do have to move to the state or postion of lowest resistance. Since the lowest resistance is the area where you have made a fracture and implanted cartilage, the inner material will get pushed out. Since you are holding the outer edges intact, the force of pressure will push in the longitudinal direction. since the edges of the outer fracture will be moving away from each other.

Sorry if I have no pictures to explain what I mean.

From PubMed study 1 HERE…

Br J Oral Maxillofac Surg. 2002 Jun;40(3):201-6.

Regeneration of defects in the articular cartilage in rabbit temporomandibular joints by bone morphogenetic protein-2.

Me: This is more of my attempt to save all of the old information that was on the EasyHeight.Com website which is gone now. Another section are the reviews and critique the people on the Make Me Taller forum had against the possible method. If you are a long time reader, you might remember very early on I had already done a post looking at the possible feasibility of using the Bone Modeling Clinics HERE and concluded with the others that this guy has a device that doesn’t work. 

Antoine’s program is outlined as follows:

a) Do simple stretching exercises twice daily for 15 to 30 minutes to stretch out nerves & tissues.
b) Sleep with the traction device for 6 to 8 hours to extend BOTH the shin & thigh bones
c) Apply the bone vibrating machines about 3 times per week.

From Sky…

There are 2 machines. The first one is the traction machine is one used to exert tension on the shin & thigh bones while sleeping at night for 8 hours. The other “physical therapy” machine is also required but is NOT shown here on this webpage. Antoine asked us to NOT go in details of the physical therapy because it’s like classified info. But we suppose his physical therapy machine is like one of those machines that our easyheight staff tried 2 years ago which are bone vibrating machines.

Note: What I wanted again in this post unlike the first one was that not only did Sky spend his own money to fly Antoine over to test his device, there were pictures of them hangout. Sky tried out the device himself but did not participate in the entire program. What is absolutely true is that Antoine does have a real diploma in physical therapy, have a woorking permit, have a permit for clinics in Lebanon, and had his passport photocopied by sky and the picture taken and uploaded to the old easyheight website but the picture no longer loads up on the wayback machine.

As for the Make Me Taller Forum, this discussion and message was posted by Antoine in 2009 explaining himself to the board members who all said that he was a scam artists (link HERE)…

A picture of the device I found on the Make Me Taller Forum. I know, it’s very small and looks like a weight jacket withe tubes and velcro. Most people conclude that the device causes 10 lbs of traction to the legs somehow.

bodyremodelingcenters n00b Credibility -6 Gender:  Posts: 6

Re: Body Remodeling? Suspected scammers want to prove that their claims are true! « Reply #86 on: May 09, 2009, 08:32:05 AM » Thank you for your waiting, Am sorry it took me till today to answer all your questions and reply to your notes, but I was in dubai and I had so many meetings there, plus in the last 2 days there I began getting sick and am still sick now! Some weird pain on the front of my neck, whatever, but I promissed you an answer and u will get one! Now about the addresses of our clinics we already mentioned that previously, about the phone/cell numbers, honestly I prefer to answer all my clients’ calls personally, because no employee can be as specific or helpful as I can, plus any mistake at the current time can actually destroy any credibility the body remodeling technique has! Now, some of you mentioned the media, well my friends, to bring the media and let it check your clinic you should pay, and pay lots of money, nothing is for free specially in the media world! I can promise you never believe what you see on the news, neither cnn nor bbc! Ok? It is all paid for, I can do that, but first we are still paying our experiments cost from the beginning of the creation of the BODY REMODELING TECHNIQUE, and we do not have the kind of money those channels might charge! Now about the website being vague and as some of you mentioned too much talk no details, well this was intentional, not all the information is mentioned and that is for a good reason, my friends, yes it is a medical technique, but it cost us money to reach where we are, lots of money and as I mentioned before, am still paying for loans to experiment till now, so if I gave you all the information, what stops you of making the treatment yourself, plus, there is an invention patent, and we are filing for many others, we cannot give too much information because then the patent will be void! Someone asked about the side effects of the treatment, well sometimes, some clients get muscles cramps, that is why actually we give sporting exercises to reduce their existence! Now about my visit to the usa, and to “sky” from scamnonsense.com, yes I was there and I presented the technique to him, and he was fairly convinced with the logic behind it, but his problem was the lack of pictures and stuff like that, I told him directly, my experiments were made in Lebanon, the middle east, and people here refuse to get their pictures taken, he couldn’t understand this idea, even though just in front of him, more than 6 people refused to get their picture taken even for assisting to the presentation! Not even for getting the treatment! actually, because of that, now, each and every client must accept to get his picture taken before and after the treatment, if he or she refuses, we refuse to give them the treatment! Now about my height, yes am 5’7, and I don’t have a problem with that, not at all! Well once I felt short, in Czech republic, I mean women were like 4 inches taller than me! But that was the only time I thought of getting my technique! The idea of lengthening one leg not the other, is just the smartest, well why don’t u do it? Don’t u know that having one lower limb taller can cause major damage in your lower back ? About the free trip to new York, who said it was free? I paid for everything, sky had just reserved the hotel for 3 days, and if you think I had fun in the gentelman’s club, think again, he adores those places not me! Now for the height increase technique, some of you said that it should be from personal experience well it is! But not my own experience, during my studies as a physical therapist, we assist to surgeries in one of our internships; well one day, a patient came to the surgical ward, she was 24 and she already had 7 surgeries, all limb lengthening, 3 of them were corrective surgeries! With scars all over her lower limbs, then I thought what kind of people would put themselves through such pain and suffering just for a few centimeters, well she actually had gained 13 cm overall (~ 5 inches), and the joke was that eventually she married her physical therapist, I mean 2 and a half years of staying at home and the only man who sees her during this time was her PT, well eventually they would marry! Lol So then, I began researching about limb lengthening and the proprieties of the bone, then I was drafted to the army, and as a sports physical therapist I was put with the sporting teams of the Lebanese army, there I found out that, professional athletes had specific body types, like in fencing the attack arm is usually longer than the other, and the attack lower limb is shorter! And that was actually acquired, not congenital! The more they did that specific sport the more their body would remodel itself to be more efficient! So when I coupled the surgery with the natural remodeling due to external forces, I came up with an hypothesis! I tried it and it worked! The is a phrase in the movie “kate and Leopold”, it says:”I just was the dog who could see a rainbow!” am not claiming to be smarter or better, but I just discovered something, and even though am getting a really bad time in explaining myself to the world, am ready for the challenge! Finally, about the short support, they also never tried the technique, and they just assumed to be a scam like all other things on the internet! I actually sent them a mail asking them also to try the technique before giving bad prejudices, and they refused even in thinking about it! now sorry if it was too long, my reply i mean! but you deserve to understand everything, within some limits naturally! by the way i only received one email of a person ready to undertake our procedure from mmt! why?

bodyremodelingcenters n00b Credibility -6 Gender:  Posts: 6 Re: Body Remodeling? Suspected scammers want to prove that their claims are true! « Reply #118 on: May 20, 2009, 01:08:44 PM » hey guys, thank you for the interest, by the way, i just send an email to beau, we accepted to treat him, but we need daily follo- ups by makemetaller, we will be starting the treatment the next time i will be in the us, i actuuld have been in the american continent now, even a lil earlier but i had a stop in mexico, and even though i want to launch my business but a actually human also, and that swine flu thing postponed my visit there! so now am concetrating my work in europe and asia! i have just one thing to ask for, you guys seem to be arguing not on wether the technique works or not, you are arguing on me being a scam or a thief! no prob, eventually we’ll look back on your threads and laugh about them! if you want specific answers, you should ask specific questions! and please, no more arguing about cell phones and addresses, i told you why the cell phones and i gave you 2 addresses, one in lebanon and the other in saoudi arabia! then about the guys who want details of the science of the technique, in comparaison to the science of LL surgery, would they go under the knife of their neighbour? or should it be a specialized surgeon? so there is no possibility of theft from the LL specialist, but in my technique any and i repeat any person, can reproduce our treatment! and about the people who underwent our procedure, we have secrecy contracts with them, they can never use it to other or even talk about it! if they ever do, we can take them to court and demande compensations! so please, be reasonable! look into any book or article about inventions, the 1st rule is you never ever talk about details even after patenting! coz, the tinyest change in the machine or the treatment is considered to be a new patent and all is lost! i already spent almost 1million dollars in experiments, and 7 years of my life, please understand me! if this non constructive arguing does not stop, i will no longer answer, we are loosing so much time in arguing and fighting , where the easiest thing is to start treating and get results, as for all of you, you all talk and talk the only MAN i noticed is beau, and even that he offered to pay for the treatment if it works, i will never accept his money, i will only accept his friendship!

bodyremodelingcenters n00b Credibility -6 Gender:  Posts: 6 Re: Body Remodeling? Suspected scammers want to prove that their claims are true! « Reply #136 on: May 04, 2011, 10:18:16 AM » HELLO GUYS! REMEMBER ME? WELL I HONESTLY STOPPED READING YOUR THREAD FOR LIKE 6 MONTHS EVEN MORE! I HONESTLY DO NOT CARE! BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK! AND WHAT A JOKE I FOUND! SO? I AM A SCAM? AND YOU DECIDED THIS HOW? BY DEDUCTION? DEDUCTION OF WHAT? YOU WANT ME TO GIVE YOU DETAILS, GREAT! DETAILS OF WHAT? OF HOW I DO MY TREATMENT? OK, DEAL! I WANT 10 MILLION DOLLARS BANKERS CHECK, WITH A FULL CONTRACT, THAT STATES THAT IF THE TECHNIQUE WORKS, I GET PAID! HOW DOES THAT SEEM TO YOU? I NEVER GET PAID UNLESS YOUR READERS GET RESULTS! BUT I WILL NEVER GIVE DETAILS AND LOOSE EVERYTHING I WORKED FOR 10 YEARS! I WANT TO RETIRE, AND SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY! NOW ABOUT THOSE SO CALLED WITNESSES, OR PEOPLE WHO TRIED MY TECHNIQUE, JUST WANT TO TELL ALL YOUR READERS, NO FRENCH CLIENT OF MINE DID NOT GET RESULT! I WOULD HAVE PREFERED IF YOU CHOSE RUSSIAN, JORDANIAN, SAUDI, SLOVAK OR AZERBAIJAN! CZO IN THOSE COUNTRIES WE HAD FAILED TREATMENTS! NOW WHO IS WILLING TO CALL MY BLUFF? I AM READY TO SIGN A CONTRACT TODAY, IN FRONT OF ANY NOTARY OR GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL IN ANY COUNTRY!!!!!!!! IT WILL ONLY COST 10 MILLIONS! BODY REMODELING IS FOR REAL!!!!!!

Me: This thread just turned more and more vile with people getting more and more upset and accusatory. One poster had said that Antoine had never given him an email of confirmation of providing him treatment with the program when Antoine said that he had. The board members were probably reading to lynch the guy if they could have gotten their hands on him. It became quite brutal and the thread was locked by the administrator which stated point blank many times that he thought Antoine was a fraud.

This next section was taken directly from the old EasyHeight.Com website link HERE and this is what Sky had written about Antoine and his Device and Clinics.