Does Inhibition Of FGFR3 Restore The Growth Plate Slightly – A Reply To Raja

Update August 1st, 2013: The conversation on this issue on whether inhibition of FGFR3 between Me and Raj continue with the following messages…

Raj —> Me

Unfortunately Michael, I don’t think you really got the point of my message.

You state: “We can not translate the chondrocyte dysplasia of rats to humans. The first reason is that dysplasia does not always equate to hyperplasia. The growth plates may go through dysplasia but that usually means that the subject is going to develop stunted growth instead of increased growth.”

In the two studies you looked at, about PD176076, it states that mice did have increased growth plate height, but with overall dysplasia. The dysplasia is caused by PD176076’s effect as a VEFGR inhibitor as well.

My point was that if FGFR3 inhibition will lead to hyperplasia, but ONLY if we target FGFR3, not VEGFR. The problem with current pharmaceuticals are the lack of specificity between different tyrosine kinases. As the study above states, PD176076 is also a VEGFR inhibitor. Inhibition of VEGFR will in fact lead to stunted growth (google this). Please, do some more research. Look at case studies were scientists have examined families with mutations in FGFR3. These people have tall stature caused by the hyperplasia of the growth plates.

But you are right, it does not say anything about the regeneration of growth plates. I specifically stated in my first message that this could be effective for individuals whose growths had just recently closed.

Again, you need to do more research. 

Me —> Raj

so how would the inhibition of FGFR3 and the prevention of the inhibition of VEGFR help a person who recently had their plates fused? I am already doing research on something else. help out.

take a look at calves with spider lamb syndrome. Their legs may be longer, but the limb will be bent/crooked.

Raj —> Me

Spider legs – a developmental defect.

Even if it does lead to spider legs, it should return to normal because our genes weren’t designed to cause spider legs.

And yeah, I’ll get cracking on that.


Most of the comments and emails I get to the website are not very helpful in the research. However, sometimes someone makes a comment or references of a study which causes a big change in our research. It seems that just recently a person named Raja wrote a comment stating that it might be possible for people who have had their growth plate close recently to reopen new plates slightly by inhibiting one of the Fibroblast Growth Factors, FGF3.

The Original Comment…

Growth plate regeneration may actually be possible for people between 17-21. Inhibition of FGFR3 may restore the growth plate, by a very small degree, as stated in the paper here: http://tpx.sagepub.com/content/33/4/449.abstract. If we can regenerate the growth plate using FGFR3 inhibitors, we can use other kinase inhibitors (or pharmaceuticals) to increase the height of the growth plate, which can potentially increase final height as well. I am currently researching pharmaceuticals to achieve this and how to synthesis different FGFR3 inhibitors. Also, it has been PROVEN that FGFR3 inhibition causes skeletal overgrowth (just google this).

{Tyler’s Comments in Italics+Bold}

The Study – Cartilage Dysplasia and Tissue Mineralization in the Rat Following Administration of a FGF Receptor Tyrosine Kinase Inhibitor

Abstract – PD176067 is a reversible and selective inhibitor of fibroblast growth factor receptor tyrosine kinase, and was in preclinical development as an angiogenesis inhibitor for the treatment of solid tumors. A 14-day oral toxicity study of PD176067 in young female rats (7 weeks old) was conducted at doses of 2.5, 5, and 10 mg/kg/day (15, 30, and 60 mg/m2, respectively). Skeletal changes, and vascular and soft tissue mineralization were observed as primary drug-related toxicities. To determine if these changes are specific to young, rapidly growing animals with increased vascular and osseous development, PD176067 was administered to mature (11 months old) rats. Female rats received PD176067 by gavage for 14 days at doses of 2.5, 5, and 10 mg/kg/day and necropsied on day 15. Clinical signs of toxicity were seen at ≥5 mg/kg and one death occurred at 10 mg/kg. Physeal dysplasia{physeal dysplasia means that the growth plate grew and should result in longitudinal bone growth; 11 month old rats are pretty much growth plate senescent} (distal femur, proximal tibia, sternum) occurred in all drug-treated animals and was characterized by dose-related increased thickness of the zones of chondrocyte proliferation and hypertrophy, and marked thickening of the zone of ossification. Cartilage hyperplasia was characterized by proliferation of chondrocytes along margins of the synchondrosis and subperiosteum of sternebrae{if the origin of the growth plate chondrocytes was periosteum then it would mean that this FGFR1 inhibition could work on people without growth plates as older individuals could merely acquire new growth plates via the periosteum}. Serum phosphorus levels increased 47% and 166% at 5 and 10 mg/kg, respectively. Mineralization of cardiac myocytes, aorta, various arteries, renal tubules, and gastric mucosa and muscularis was seen at 10 mg/kg, and consistent with the presence of calcium-phosphorus deposition. Physeal changes occurred at similar plasma PD176067 exposures in young and mature rats (AUC ≥ 4.83 μg · hr/mL). PD176067 produced morphologically similar lesions in young and adult rats.

Initial Analysis – From doing only a reading of the abstract it seems that if we give this type of selective inhibitor of fibroblast growth factor receptor tyrosine kinase known as PD176067 to lab rats, the physis (growth plates) in its limbs goes through dysplasia. In the experiment, the lab rats were used to test the toxicity of the compound. Different dosages were used and young and old rats were tested. What is seen is that the zones of the growth plates did increase in thickness. There was signs of cartilage hyperplasia where the chondrocytes on the edges of the articular and epiphyseal cartilages replicated much faster. What is not good is that something else known as serum phosphorous increased. The bigger problem is that parts of the heart, aorta, and various arteries started to become mineralized. The effects were very similar in both the young and old rats.

From reading only the abstract I conclude that while it might be that this specific FGF receptor tyrosine kinase can cause the cartilage in joints to go through abnormal development and get thicker, there is no evidence that administering of any type of inhibitor of FGFR3 would lead to the reappareance of growth plates that might have been recently ossified.

Since Raja did say that I can just google the information about the link between inihibition of FGF3 and skeletal overgrowth, I did just that. The results are in the Further Research subsection

Deeper Analysis from Reading the Full Study PDF HERE – The first thing that is noted is that researchers have discovered that it is possible to stop cancer tumors from getting bigger by restricting the angiogenesis aka creation of blood flow to the tumor. Compounds like VEGF and FGFs actually can bind to receptors on cell surfaces with tyrosine kinase activity.

From the article “PD176067 is a reversible, selective ATP competitive inhibitor of FGF receptor tyrosine kinase, with in vitro IC50 values of 2–9 nM against human FGF receptor-1 (Parke-Davis, 2000)….inhibition of VEGF receptor tyrosine kinase is also observed, although at higher concentrations than for FGF receptor tyrosine kinase.”

The thing is that the researchers wanted to test just how toxic this inhibitor of FGF can be, young rats around 7 weeks old got various dosages twice a day. The result is that the growth plate in the young rats started to develop abnormally. In addition, many of the soft tissues started to mineralize and blood vessels also started to mineralize.

The section that would be most important to either validate or disprove the claim made by the commenter Raja that administering of a FGF Receptor Inhibitor is the section below, which I copy and pasted from the discussion section.

Abnormal endochondral ossification induced by PD176067 and classified as physeal dysplasia was present in the distal femur and proximal tibia growth plates in young rats at ≥5 mg/kg and mature rats at all doses. In young rats, progressive thickening of the physis was dose-related and severity of physeal dysplasia was minimal, mild, and mild to moderate at 2.5, 5, and 10 mg/kg, respectively. There was an approximately 4-fold increased thickness of cartilaginous growth plates in young rats at 10 mg/kg compared to agematched controls{That could be a pretty big increase in height} (Figure 3A and 3C). In young rats, the proliferating zone had increased numbers of flattened chondrocytes aligned in columns and was twice the thickness as compared to control rats{The increased number of flattened chondrocytes could be due FGFR1 resulting in disorganized flattened growth plates or it could be that FGFR1 inhibition results in chondrogenesis of subperiosteal cells resulting in possible new growth plate formation}. There was increased depth of the zone of chondrocyte hypertrophy, and marked thickening of the zone of ossification (primary spongiosa). Disorganization of the distal columns of hypertrophic chondrocytes, variable enlargement of the perichondrial lacunae, and increased numbers of primary spongiosa with retention of cartilaginous cores and thin rims of osteoid lining the trabeculae were present (Figure 3C). Capillary loops were present within the tubes of mineralized cartilage matrix (Figure 3E). However, there was decreased resorption or amalgamation of primary spongiosa into secondary spongiosa.

In mature control rats, the narrow, inactive physes were sealed by a layer of bone along the zone of ossification, and the metaphyses contained a few thick trabeculae (Figure 3B). With administration of PD176067 to mature rats, there was enhanced proliferation and maturation of chondrocytes. There was increased prominence of the stacks of proliferating chondrocytes and an approximately 2-fold increased thickness of the zone of hypertrophy (Figure 3D). The metaphysis contained irregular thick trabeculae with retention of chondrocytes and cartilage cores (Figure 3F). 

In both young and mature rats, the synchondroses of sternebrae were thickened by proliferating and hypertrophic chondrocytes (Figure 4A, 4B, and 4C). The cartilage hyperplasia elevated and extended along subperiosteal margins of the sternebral body with resemblance to endochondral ossification in young rats.

From the Results Section

Oral administration to rats of an inhibitor of VEGF receptor tyrosine kinase (AstraZeneca’s ZD4190) resulted in a marked increase in the femoral physeal zone of hypertrophy (Wedge et al., 2000). Administration of a recombinant humanized anti-VEGF monoclonal IgG antibody (rhuMabVEGF) to young adult cynomolgus monkeys produced physeal dysplasia characterized by increased hypertrophied chondrocytes, subchondral bony plate formation, and inhibition of vascular invasion of the growth plate (Ryan et al., 1999). 

Deletion of the murine FGF receptor-3 gene resulted in mice (FGFR-3−/−) that developed bone dysplasia characterized by expansion of proliferating and hypertrophic chondrocytes within the growth plate (Deng et al., 1996). The study by Deng et al. suggested that FGF receptor-3 regulates endochondral ossification by limiting chondrocyte proliferation in the growth plate; therefore, inhibition of receptor function results in chondrocyte proliferation.

PD176067 administration to rats resulted in chondrocyte proliferation and cartilage formation, characterized by increased thickness of both the zone of proliferation and the zone of hypertrophy. Although the mechanism by which this occurs in rats is unknown, inhibition of FGF and/or VEGF
dependent signaling pathways appears to be a component. In summary, the current and published data suggest that inhibition of growth factor signaling can lead to increases in chondrocyte proliferation and expansion of the hypertrophic zone, resulting in dysplastic growth of cartilage

From the Discussion Section

In conclusion, oral administration of PD176067 to female rats for 14 days resulted in physeal dysplasia and soft tissue mineralization. These lesions were morphologically similar in young and mature rats, and do not appear to be related to inhibition of angiogenesis. Tissue mineralization was associated with elevated serum phosphorus levels and was consistent with calcium phosphorus deposits.

Personal Conclusion – When I only analyze this specific type of FGF inhibitor, it shows that it can cause many sections of the growth plates in at least young rats to become expanded in thickness. When it is applied to older rats, who actually still have cartilage in their limb bones, the researchers write “With administration of PD176067 to mature rats, there was enhanced proliferation and maturation of chondrocytes. There was increased prominence of the stacks of proliferating chondrocytes and an approximately 2-fold increased thickness of the zone of hypertrophy

Now, let’s always remember that even in mature rats which might be many months old and don’t get their limbs growing longitudinally longer, their limbs are still cartilage tissue. When the researchers are saying that the chondrocytes did proliferate in mature rats, it is more likely that they are referring to the fact that mature rats still have chondrocytes in their long bones since the long bone still has cartilage in them. It seems that the growth plate never goes away for lab rats{The growth plate is still dysfunctional in older rats such that longitudinal bone growth stops so it is promising that growth begins a new; one possible method for growth beginning anew is the accumulation of new growth plate cells from the periosteal region which could potentially happen in older adults}. When the researchers are talking about the zone of hypertrophy in mature rats, that is what they are talking about.

Overall, after even read the entire PDF for the full study, there is no evidence that there can be growth plates can be be restored even slightly for humans. The reason is because old rats have cartilage in their long bones, and humans do not. We can not translate the chondrocyte dysplasia of rats to humans. The first reason is that dysplasia does not always equate to hyperplasia. The growth plates may go through dysplasia but that usually means that the subject is going to develop stunted growth instead of increased growth{While true that skeletal dysplasia doesn’t always result in increased height, it seems however that dysplasia’s relating to FGFR3 inhibition and/or CNP stimulation uniformly result in increased longitudinal bone growth, although in this study FGFR1 is inhibited and not FGFR3}.

I would say that the suggestion made by the commenter Raja is inaccurate and was a too big of a leap in scientific reasoning and logic. The studies never stated directly or implied that it would work in adult humans.

Tyler’s Comments:

It’s interesting that PD176067 is actually an FGFR1 and VEGFR2 inhibitor and not an FGFR3 inhibitor when FGFR1 is typically considered the good FGFR and FGFR3 the bad.  It should be noted that LSJL does result in upregulation of FGFR1 mRNA.  FGFR1 is involved in the commitment of stem cells to chondrocytes.  Maybe only downregulation of beta-catenin is required to commit stem cells to chondrocytes and FGFR1 merely plays an inhibitory role.

As a result of the FGFR1 inhibitor treatment there was increased incidence of hypocellularity bone marrow lesions(fewer cells than there should be) with increasing dose and increasing age.  It’s possible that the fewer cells are a result of these cells being used as growth plate cells.

As a result of FGFR1 inhibition there was also ectopic mineralization in the heart, kidneys, stomach, and arteries.  This could be the result of ectopic endochondral ossification in those areas thus the possibility that FGFR1 inhibition could in fact help form new growth plates.  It’s possible though that the ectopic mineralization is as a result of dysregulation of phosphorus and calcium as suggested in the study.

Figure 3A, C, and E are from young growth plates whereas A, D, and F are from mature growth plates.

“Growth plate of mature control rat is inactive and sealed by layer of bone (arrow).”<-so FGFR1 inhibition could possibly “unseal” the bone.

I also found another study which likes FGFR3 to BMP Type 1 receptor which is highly significant as BMPR1A may play a role in growth plate formation.

FGFR3 induces degradation of BMP type I receptor to regulate skeletal development.

chondrocyte-specific deletion of BMP type I receptor a (Bmpr1a) rescued the bone overgrowth phenotype observed in Fgfr3 deficient mice by reducing chondrocyte differentiation{for our purposes Bone overgrowth is a good thing}. FGFR3 inhibited BMPR1a-mediated chondrogenic differentiation. FGFR3 hyper-activation resulted in impaired BMP signaling in chondrocytes of mouse growth plates. FGFR3 inhibited BMP-2- or constitutively activated BMPR1-induced phosphorylation of Smads through a mechanism independent of its tyrosine kinase activity. FGFR3 facilitate BMPR1a to degradation through Smurf1-mediated ubiquitination pathway. Down-regulation of BMP signaling by BMPR1 inhibitor dorsomorphin led to the retardation of chondrogenic differentiation, which mimicks the effect of FGF-2 on chondrocytes and BMP-2 treatment partially rescued the retarded growth of cultured bone rudiments from thanatophoric dysplasia type II mice.”

“BMP-2 significantly promoted the hypertrophic zone length of embryonic metatarsals, but not the mineralized and proliferation zone length”

“Double Bmpr1a and Bmpr1b null mice have a phenotype of increased expression of FGFR1 in chondrocytes”

Thus inducing BMPr1a expression in stem cells could possibly aide in inducing neo growth plate formation.——————————————–

Further Research – I did google the term and the following studies were listed and I did read over the abstracts of these studies

Study #1: Fibroblast growth factor receptor 3 effects on proliferation and telomerase activity in sheep growth plate chondrocytes

Personal Interpretation – Researchers are in agreement that FGFR3 causes chondrocytes in growth plates to decrease in proliferation. It causes the decrease through down-regulating TERT expression and reducing telomerase activity indicating an important role for telomerase in sustaining chondrocyte proliferative capacity during bone elongation. From the researchers “The present study addressed whether reduced FGFR3 expression enhanced telomerase activity, mRNA expression of telomerase reverse transcriptase (TERT) and RNA component of telomerase (TR), and chondrocyte proliferation, and whether the stimulation of FGFR3 by T3 evoked the opposite response.”

Study #2: Enhanced skeletal growth of sheep heterozygous for an inactivated fibroblast growth factor receptor 3

Personal Interpretation – It seems that when the FGFR3 is inhibited in sheep, the condition is known as spider lamb syndrome. It was shown that lamb that had it, whether homozygous or heterozygous did end up with longer limbs and were taller than their counterparts. It did take longer for the lamb to reach the same weight as the normal ones but they did end up bigger in terms of the size/volume of the bones.

Study #3: Constitutive activation of MEK1 in chondrocytes causes Stat1-independent achondroplasia-like dwarfism and rescues the Fgfr 3-deficient mouse phenotype

From The Study –  “the MAPK pathway inhibits hypertrophic differentiation of chondrocytes and negatively regulates bone growth without inhibiting chondrocyte proliferation. Expression of a constitutively active mutant of MEK1 in chondrocytes of Fgfr3-deficient mice inhibited skeletal overgrowth, strongly suggesting that regulation of bone growth by FGFR3 is mediated at least in part by the MAPK pathway…a model in which Fgfr3 signaling inhibits bone growth by inhibiting chondrocyte differentiation through the MAPK pathway and by inhibiting chondrocyte proliferation through Stat1…FGF receptor 3 (FGFR3) is expressed in proliferating and prehypertrophic chondrocytes in the epiphyseal growth plates.

Study #4: A Lys644Glu Substitution in Fibroblast Growth Factor Receptor 3 (FGFR3) Causes Dwarfism in Mice by Activation of STATs and Ink4 Cell Cycle Inhibitors

Personal Interpretation – The researchers used genetic engineering to add a mutation into the chondrocytes of the growth plate in lab rats. The mutation is the substitution of something known as Lys644Glu. The result is increased FGFR3 expression, leading to mice that showed signs of dwarfism and small skeletal size.

Link #1: FGFR3 is a physiological negative regulator of bone growth

Link #2: Molecular mechanisms of FGFR3 signaling in cartilage

Related Information

It seems that for a long time there was a lot of studies which showed that this receptor for FGF3 have been very involved in skeletal growth.

Tyler wrote about the fact that FGFR3 was another idea that we should explore in an old post from backin October of 2011 entitled “FGFR3“. The most interesting thing that he showed was that there was some project by the NIH for a way to treat the stunted growth of FGFR3 using a soluble form of FGFR3 entitled “DELIVERY OF SOLUBLE FGFR3 AS A TREATMENT FOR ACHONDROPLASIA. The author is Steve Ghivizzani, Ph.D. with the University of Florido, Department of Orthopaedics and Rehabilitation at the College of Medicine.

The grant proposal writer notes that achondroplasia is almost always caused by the excess expression of FGFR3. They propose this idea to remove the stunting of growth due to excess FGFR3. “we hypothesized that systemic delivery of a soluble FGFR3 molecule would likewise titrate receptor-specific FGF ligands and thereby reduce aberrant FGFR3 signaling to rescue bone growth….We will address the following Specific Aims: 

  1. To determine the capacity of FGFR3?TM to bind FGF-ligand and thereby inhibit aberrant FGFR3G374R signaling in growth plate chondrocytes from transgenic and knock-in models of achondroplasia.
  2. To determine the effects of long-term delivery of FGFR3?TM on the skeletal growth and physiology of the FGR3G374R knock-in achondroplasia model.

On a related note on the subject of FGR3…

I was combing through the threads of the Make Me Taller boards and there was a post that noted that FGFR3 and the inhibition of it was one of the only ideas ever pursued by a real company to try to increase growth and height in humans. From the thread Starting up a biotech research/investment companysomeone (Harald Oberlander) writes this part….

Worldwide there is currently very few research activity concerning new height increase / limb lengthening therapy options. 

Children: To the best of our knowledge there is currently only one company worldwide, that researches an innovative height increase therapy: ProChon Biotech (http://www.prochon.com), established in  Israel in 1997. ProChon is developing a monoclonal antibody for the treatment of achondroplasia. This antibody approach targets specifially the FGFR3-gene and hasn´t reached the stage of human clinical trials yet. If it is successful, it will only work for children with achondroplasia.

The fact is that Harald specifically named the name of a company that has been doing research to figure out how to make children taller beyond the traditional GH therapy.

It is ProChon Biotech, and it was using the type of technology that Raja is proposing, which is to target/inhibit the FGFR3 gene.

I would go to the ProChon website and read up more about this company. It seems that the company was created to find ways to regrow or regenerate cartilage tissue. The focus was on tissue regenerative technologies to relieve pain in knees from regenerating articular cartilage. The product that was created by ProChon and sold was something called the BioCart™ Cartilage Regeneration System. The system was a technology created to heal articular cartilage defects through microfractures. It was eventually bought out through stock options in May of 2011 by the company Histogenics Corporation, which also was in the cartilage regeneration and repair field.

One of the members on the board I became very interested in reading more about in terms of the research and the paper they have written, a Dr. Avner Yayon. I would try to search any research papers he had written in PubMed by typing in his name Avner Yayon. His papers may help further the research and might give a clue which direction the research should be going towards.

Conclusion – This shows that for children with growth plates at least, the possibility of increasing height is very likely using this other method, by finding a way to inhibit this specific FGF.

Plasma Discharge Treatment for Height

This treatment could potentially increase chondrogenic differentiation.  However, it involves free radicals and too many free radicals can be harmful to height growth.  Too much ROS accumulation can lead to MSC senescence.

Skeletal cell differentiation is enhanced by atmospheric dielectric barrier discharge plasma treatment.

“This study investigated the potential of non-thermal atmospheric dielectric barrier discharge plasma (NT-plasma) to enhance chondrocyte and osteoblast proliferation and differentiation. [The mechanism by which] NT-plasma interacts with cells [involves ionizing the atmosphere] generating extracellular reactive oxygen and nitrogen species (ROS and RNS) and an electric field. Appropriate NT-plasma conditions were determined to evaluate DNA damage and mitochondrial integrity.  Specific NT-plasma conditions were required to prevent cell death{How could we manipulate this in the growth plate?}, and that loss of pre-osteoblastic cell viability was dependent on intracellular ROS and RNS production. To further investigate the involvement of intracellular ROS, fluorescent intracellular dyes Mitosox (superoxide) and dihydrorhodamine (peroxide) were used to assess onset and duration after NT-plasma treatment. Both intracellular superoxide and peroxide were found to increase immediately post NT-plasma treatment. These increases were sustained for one hour but returned to control levels by 24 hr. Using the same treatment conditions, osteogenic differentiation by NT-plasma was assessed and compared to peroxide or osteogenic media containing β-glycerolphosphate. Although both NT-plasma and peroxide induced differentiation-specific gene expression, neither was as effective as the osteogenic media. However, treatment of cells with NT-plasma after 24 hr in osteogenic or chondrogenic media significantly enhanced differentiation as compared to differentiation media alone. NT-plasma can selectively initiate and amplify ROS signaling to enhance differentiation, and suggest this technology could be used to enhance bone fusion and improve healing after skeletal injury{healing after skeletal injury often involves endochondral ossification which is the mechanism by which you become taller}.”

“The NT-plasma discharge is generated by applying a high voltage, time-varying waveform between a dielectric covered electrode and the biological target. To prevent high temperature build-up and transition to arc, high voltage current is alternated between the two electrodes, one of which is covered with a dielectric. Within the NT-plasma discharge, the molecules present in air (O2, N2, H2O, CO2, etc) are ionized resulting in the direct formation of numerous reactive oxygen species (ROS) and reactive nitrogen species (RNS)”

” NT-plasma exposure promoted endothelial cell proliferation, which was abrogated by fibroblast growth factor (FGF)-2 neutralizing antibody. Proliferation and FGF-2 release were blocked by N-acetyl-cysteine (NAC), which prevented changes in intracellular redox. Mechanistically, these studies directly link NT-plasma effects to ROS or RNS generation.”<-FGF2 is involved in height growth.  However, elevated levels of FGFR3 which is an FGF2 receptor decrease height growth. Maybe a mechanism of inhibiting FGFR3, such as an over the counter pharmaceutical supplement, would be a solution to using NT-plasma.

“he Map5kinase Apoptosis signal-regulating kinase 1 (ASK1), is particularly sensitive to ROS as its activity is tightly regulated by four ROS sensitive proteins thioredoxin, glutaredoxin, Akt and 14-3-3. ROS activated ASK1 phosphorylates and activates both p38 and jnk kinases, which play key roles in cellular differentiation”<-LSJL activates Akt as well.

NT-Plasma increased ROS levels by 25-50% for about 1 hour.

“the N1511 chondrocyte cell line was subjected to the same NT-plasma treatment in the presence of BMP2 (200 ng/ml), a known inducer of chondrocyte differentiation. 24 hr after treatment, chondrocyte differentiation markers Runx2, ALKP were increased 3–6-fold above BMP-treated controls. By 56 hr, collagen type X (Col X) and another late marker, matrix metalloprotease 13 (MMP13) were both increased 20 and 4-fold, respectively above BMP-treated control.”<-Given the upregulation of Col X and MMP-13 NT-Plasma seems to encourage enchondral ossification.  Perhaps it could do so for the articular cartilage and we could grow taller that way?

Within the stem cell pool, quiescence and pluripotency is maintained by the repression of ROS generation. As such, mouse and human embryonic stem cells have immature mitochondria, reduced expression of OXPHOS enzymes, low metabolic activity, low oxygen consumption, decreased levels of ATP production, express modest levels of antioxidant enzymes and have a high glycolytic flux”

“chondrocyte differentiation in response to NT-plasma may be directly linked to ROS induced expression of SOX-9 and Runx2”

“laser irradiation induced intracellular ROS production and enhanced SOX-9 expression leading to chondrocyte differentiation and expression of collagen and aggrecan“<-One laser irradiation study to impact longitudinal bone growth was discussed here.

NT-Plasma Treatment was not tested directly on Mesenchymal Stem Cells but still could be useful if other factors are in the right place.

CRISPR Technique with Cas9 Enzyme To Alter Hereditary Traits Easily

CRISPR Technique with Cas9 Enzyme To Alter Hereditary Traits Easily

CRISPR Technique with Cas9 EnzymeNote: The original paper is found in the UK based magazine website for the Independent entitled “CRISPR gene therapy: Scientists call for more public debate around breakthrough technique

The technology to alter the human race is almost here and the newest technique in genetic engineering that is making waves is something known as the CRISPR Technique. The quotes says that it can “…be used to rewrite genetic defects to effectively cure diseases in mice and human stem cells”. It is able to correct the mutations in cells which lead to diseases. The acronym stands for “Clustered Regularly Interspaced Short Palindromic Repeats“. It is a type of RNA sequence that have traditionally only been in bacteria types but the genetic researchers have been able to take that unique genetic sequence and used it in the cells of other organisms with cells which might be more complex like mice and humans.

The sequence is a type of immune function and works as a guide. The enzyme/protein it guides is something known as the Cas9 protein to a very specific, target area in the DNA. Apparently this enzyme called Cas9 has the ability to “…cut the double strand, nick it, or even knock down gene expression“. Once the target DNA area had been cut or changed in some way by Cas9, then the double strand area can either be repaired or have a DNA segment inserted into the spacing. A group of Chinese researchers at the Shanghai Institute for Biological Sciences were able to use the CRISPR method to get the Cas9 to the right mutated allele and make a cut/cleavage. New alleles that were correct were added when the repairing process began. The method was tested on mice with hereditary mutation of cataracts and a large percentage of the zygotes that had the technique employed developed into baby mice without the cataracts. Another group tried it on the mutation causing cystic fibrosis. The overall opinion at this stage is that compared to other ways to cut, edit, and paste parts of the DNA around, this method compared with other gene editing techniques, it was straightforward.

One of the chinese researchers went on to even claim the following “…I think CRISPR/Cas9 system may be the easiest strategy to cure genetic disease than any other available gene-editing techniques,” – For more information we suggest looking at least over the abstract for the article “Cas9 as a versatile tool for engineering biology

Multiple high profile researchers have commented that it has the potential to “…revolutionise human gene therapy and genetic engineering”. The first group of people to get the process to even work was Professor George Church of Harvard. He is the director of the open access platform for people to share the data in their genomes known as the Personal Genome Project started back in 2005.

However, it was Jennifer Doudna & colleagues from Berkeley (at the Doudna Lab) in recent years were the first group of people to show that the technique can be effective in application on genetic engineering. It has worked on human cells and lab mice embryos.

It is noted that it might be maybe 1-2 decades before the technique can be implemented on IVF embryos (In Vitro Fertilization).

crispr

The following picture above was taken from the Next Big Future website.

So how would the method work?

Remember that there are three different types of RNA in the human cells. Besides the sex cells or gametes in humans, which would be the sperm and eggs, as well as the red blood cells which have no nucleus, every single cell that is in the human body has a nucleus with the necessary 23 pairs of chromosomes. The chromosomes are shaped either like an X or Y. they are actually just winded up chromatin loops which are winded up some more.

Within the chromatin are where the actual double strands of DNA wind around histones, creating something known as a nucleosome, which is further wrapped into solenoid shaped parts.

We are talking about it at the level of the actual double strands. The method guides a type of RNA sequence with the Cas9 to the exact area of the DNA with the genetic mutation. The Cas9 can come in, and cut the area of the mutation away. The double strand can then either just repair itself or an extra DNA segment is popped into the space that was created from the cleavage.

So how does this affect us, people who wish to become taller?

One of the main things I have always said is that even after all the research is done and every single possibility checked, we might reach the conclusion that there is nothing we can do for adult height increase that does not involve some type of invasive surgery. At this point, I would actually be willing to suggest that their is no alternative to the surgery method.

What I am willing to propose from the research being done is a faster, cheaper, less painful way to break the long bones (aka distraction) to height increase surgery. I am willing to make some type of compromise if the science has been completely exhausted and their is no clever way to elongate bones without using some type of chisel and hammer to at least cause the first break in bones.

If however, the readers of this website still refuse the method, then there is nothing we can do. The only option at that point is to hopefully find a way to help our children and offspring, the people who will carry out genetic lineage become taller. I will not be too selfish and hope that I would become taller as a adult. It if doesn’t work, that is okay as long as the research continues and I find a way to serve humanity. It would make more evolutionary sense to do everything in my power to help my future offspring to have the genetic advantage of extra height.

The most obvious area of our current modern lives where adult human height still means a lot is in the dating world. It might not mean a lot to women, but for men it means a lot. When young women in their 20s are asked directly at face value why they seems to always gravitate towards taller men no matter what the situation, the answer after some serious probing into their psyche and deep motives reveal that they just wish to produce offspring that are taller than they were. Maybe due to some warped low sense of self for being short themselves, they felt a need to overcompensate for their genetic “hindrances” by looking for a “genetically healthy” male. Obviously height is the easiest indicator of genetic fitness in human males and that is the measuring stick females of almost all human cultures have used to judge the worthiness of men at some level or another.

If we remember basic gene therapy information, there is two different ways that gene therapy can work. You have the 1) somatic gene therapy, and 2) the germ line gene therapy.

Whereas the somatic gene therapy would only have some type of medical benefit for the person, germ line gene therapy, which the CRISPR technique does, will mean the entire rest of the generations to come will have their hereditary trait.

If this new genetic technique is proven to work, that argument that females have been making since the beginning of human history over their biological/reptilian brain egocentric validation for their choice in taller men about worrying over having smaller offspring will no longer be valid. If we as genetic engineers can go into the human IVF embryo, using the CRISPR method, and alter the 5-6 most influential genes that affect human height, then our offspring will be able to grow upwards of maybe 4-5 inches taller than without the gene alternation. Obviously it has been shown in multiple genome-wide association studies (GWASs) meta-studies of the SNPs/genes that have some effect on human height that there is supposed to be around 200-500 or so genes that have some effect. We just need to target the top 5-6. Remember pareto’s principle and how uneven distributions work in nature.

In previous articles that I (and Tyler) have written about the exact genes in the genome which have a higher than average effect on the overall adult human height, we found elements like HMGA2 (source) (source 2), FGFR3, and GDF5 have a huge effect on human height from the way they regulate the rate of endochondral ossification and how fast the epiphyseal plates mature. Take a look at the study “A common variant of HMGA2 is associated with adult and childhood height in the general population

Of course in recently years at least 2 dozen new genes also seem to have some effect, but at a smaller degree. (source) Take a look at the study “Genome-wide association analysis identifies 20 loci that influence adult height

The other approach is to actually induce a type of slight matution into an average embryo with normal traits to give their abnormal body abilities. We learned from studying the genetics of families who have had the pituitary gigantism causing condition that the AIP gene (Aryl hydrocarbon receptor-interacting protein) has a slight mutation. (source) That is just one gene that has been mutated, and the result is familial genetic change where multiple members of the family become tall individuals. Why not use the CRISPR method to change the AIP gene? – For more information we suggest reading the article AIP-Related Familial Isolated Pituitary Adenomas”

 

Mamadou N’Diaye – Two Different Basketball Playing Sengalese 7 Feet Tall Men and One Footballer

Yesterday while I was looking over basketball related topic I came across an article entitled The Highest-Paid African Players in NBA History and I realized that there was a case of mistaken identity. There was a total of 10 different people listed who were from Africa over the years who have become very successful playing in the NBA. They are…

  1. Mamadou N’Diaye – Country: Senegal – Height: 7′ 0″ – Years in NBA: 2000-2005
  2. Manute Bol – Country: South Sudan – Height: 7′ 7″ – Years in NBA: 1985-1995
  3. Bismack Biyombo – Country: Democratic Republic of Congo – Height: 6′ 8.5″ – Years in NBA: 2012
  4. Luc Mbah a Moute – Country: Cameroon – Height: 6′ 8″ – Years in NBA: 2008 –
  5. Hasheem Thabeet – Country: Tanzania – Height: 7′ 1.5″ – Years in NBA: 2009 –
  6. Michael Olowokandi – Country: Nigeria – Height: 7′ 0″ – Years in NBA: 1999 – 2007
  7. DeSagana Diop – Country: Senegal – Height: 7′ 0″ – Years in NBA: 2001 – 2013
  8. Luol Deng – Country: South Sudan – Height: 6′ 7″ – Years in NBA:
  9. Hakeem Olajuwon – Country: Nigeria: Height: 6′ 10″ – 6′ 11″ – Years in NBA:
  10. Dikembe Mutombo – Country: Democratic Republic of Congo – Height: 7′ 1.5″ – 7′ 2″ – Years in NBA:

We realize that some of the information has not been added like what years were the players playing in the NBA. However, what I wanted to raise awareness for today is that there was a mistake made on that website, and it shows that there has been a case of mistaken identity. Of course there is a good reason why any journalist might make this easy to make mistake.

There are THREE different people named Mamadou N’Diaye (That is relatively well known)

The picture shown on the website is of the younger one while the player that was profiled was of the older one.  I have since given an email to the writer, a Mr. Nitin Bhandari to tell him the wrong picture was used. It is a small thing, but as a person who tabulates and collects data on very tall people and basketball players it is something that I wanted to point out.

So let’s do a complete comparison of the three (currently) people named Mamadou N’Diaye, all of whom are from Senegal.

Mamadou N’Diaye #1

From the Wikipedia article on him we find out the following information…

  • Born on June 16, 1975 (so currently around 38 years old)
  • He played in college basketball at Auburn
  • He was drafted by the Denver Nuggets back in 2000 in the 1st round as the 26th pick
  • He played for 10 years from 2000-2010
  • He was a part of the following teams –
  • Toronto Raptors
  • Dallas Mavericks
  • Atlanta Hawks
  • Los Angeles Clippers
  • Currently: Assistant men’s basketball coach at Coastal Carolina University for the 2013-2014 season
  • Other sources include the NBA Scouting Report and HoopsHype

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Mamadou N’Diaye

Mamadou N’Diaye #2

Mamadou-Ndiaye 5This is the kid that is probably going to get the most coverage in recent years. What makes him standout is his insane height, which most people are citing to be 7′ 5″. That would make him one of the tallest college basketball players in the entire country. His name has also been spelled as Mamadou Ndiaye. He was at least 18 years old as a High School Junior back in Jan of 2012. That would make him about 19-20 currently. His shoe size is 19½.

Back in Jan of 2012 it was reported that the teenager was just a high school junior. He got VISA to stay in the USA from Simi Valley Stoneridge Prep (based in California). He arrived in the US back in 2010. After he did a physical, it was found out that he has an a tumor on his pituitary gland causing excess GH release into his system. The MRI done on his brain revealed a golfball-sized tumor on Ndiaye’s pituitary gland. The tumor was pressing up against Ndiaye’s optic nerve.

Mamadou N'Diaye HeightA lot of people are saying that this kid is going to be a player in the NBA but we here feel that the chances are extremely small.

Many pituitary giants who were young and playing in some D Level small college were written up by people who believed that they would become basketball legends. It is true that any young 7 footer who is playing basketball usually is written in the press as the next Kobe or Lebron like Thon Maker but the expectation is almost always too high for the young kids to live up to.

Not one has achieved that yet. Examples include…

  • The Chinese Sun Ming Ming
  • The UNC Asheville Kenny George
  • Satnam Singh Bhamara

The only exception we know is for Romanian Gheorghe Dumitru Mureșan who did have only a below average NBA Career.

As for who is really the tallest college player disputes, we realize that former Gonzaga Center Will Foster was also supposed to be 7′ 5″ although he might be closer to 7′ 4″ based on some websites and sources. There is also UK Paul Sturgess which seems to have moved on the the Harlem Globetrotters.

Mamadou N’Diaye #3

We only found out about this player also named Mamadou after looking on Wikipedia. It seems that currently he is a footballer aka soccer player playing for a team based in Portugal.

BSP(Bone sialoprotein)

LSJL upregulates Bone sialoprotein.

Loss of bone sialoprotein leads to impaired endochondral bone development and mineralization.

“Bone sialoprotein (BSP) is an anionic phosphoprotein in the extracellular matrix of mineralized tissues, and a promoter of biomineralization and osteoblast development. Previous studies on the Bsp-deficient mouse (Bsp-/-) have demonstrated a significant bone and periodontal tissue phenotype in adulthood.  Early endochondral ossification in the Bsp-/- mouse was studied. Embryonic day 15.5 (E15.5) wild-type (WT) tibiae showed early stages of ossification that were absent in Bsp-/- mice. At E16.5, mineralization had commenced in the Bsp-/- mice, but staining for mineral was less intense and more dispersed compared with that in WT controls. Tibiae from Bsp-/- mice also demonstrated decreased mineralization and shortened length at postnatal day 0.5 (P0.5) compared to WT bones. There was no detectable difference in the number of tartrate-resistant acid phosphatase-positive foci at P0.5, although the P0.5 Bsp-/- tibiae had decreased Vegfα expression compared with WT tissue. Due to the shortened tibiae the growth plates were examined and determined to be of normal overall length. However, the length of the resting zone was increased in P0.5 Bsp-/- tibiae whereas that of the proliferative zone was decreased, with no change in the hypertrophic zone length of Bsp-/- mice{So BSP can possibly aid in the transition of resting zone chondrocytes to proliferative chondrocytes}. A reduction in cells positive for Ki-67, an S-phase cell-cycle marker, was noted in the proliferative zone. Decreased numbers of TUNEL-positive hypertrophic chondrocytes were also apparent in the Bsp-/- tibial growth plates, suggesting decreased apoptosis. Expression of the osteogenic markers Alp1, Col1a1, Sp7, Runx2, and Bglap was reduced in the endochondral bone of the neonatal Bsp-/- compared to WT tibiae. These results suggest that BSP is an important and multifaceted protein that regulates both chondrocyte proliferation and apoptosis as well as transition from cartilage to bone during development of endochondral bone.”

From this information though we can’t be clear whether the loss of BSP slows down growth or results in alteration of adult bone length.

“Overexpression of BSP downstream of a CMV promoter (CMV-BSP) in vivo resulted in mice that are significantly smaller than their wild-type controls. There are also defects in their endochondral bones, with aberrant growth plate formation and development. The growth plates of the CMV-BSP mice have no change in overall length, although there was an increase in hypertrophic zone size and number of hypertrophic chondrocytes. At 8 weeks of age, the mice also show a decrease in the proliferative zone length. This suggests that the overexpression of BSP promotes terminal differentiation in these chondrocytic cells.”<-So mice with overexpression of BSP had shorter bones.  Perhaps lower levels of BSP is beneficial as growth may be slower but take place over a longer period of time.

“these CMV-BSP mice have increased numbers of osteoclasts in their trabecular bone, suggesting that BSP promotes osteoclast formation”

“Mice deficient in BSP (Bsp−/−) also have decreased long bone length and cortical bone thickness relative to wild-type (WT) mice at 4 months of age. Conversely, they have a higher trabecular bone density than WT mice, but an apparent lower rate of bone turnover. This decrease in turnover could be due, in part, to a decrease in osteoclast numbers.”

“lack of BSP results in delayed patterns of bone development, which can be attributed, in part, to the reduction in the proliferation and apoptosis of the chondrocytes within the growth plate.”<-Delayed development not necessarily reduced development.

” The RP fraction was assayed for expression of developmental markers of chondrocyte development Alp1, Col2a1, Acan, Runx2, and Sox9 and no differences were seen between genotypes”

Review On The Grow Taller With Shin Lengthening Website

Review On The Grow Taller With Shin Lengthening Website

Shin LengtheningRecently one of the regular readers of the website expressed a desire for me to take a look at a website they have found entitled GrowTallerWithShinLengthening.com. They did state that there seems to be nothing being sold on the website so it seems to be not doing any type of hard sell on anything.

I decided to spend about 30 minutes looking over the content and articles on the website. From checking over the sitemap part, it seems that the website has a total of 20 pages. I looked over the title of the pages hoping to find something that was new and not already stated in most other “grow taller” websites.

I chose not to care too much about the design and look of the website, since those things are not important.

Overall Conclusion

This website has always been designed to be based on scientific principles. We put extra effort in doing the research and making sure the science makes sense. We hoped that the Grow Taller With Shin Lengthening website would do the same. Overall, I felt that the website is lacking in serious content. From checking the Facebook Page that associated with the website, it seems that the website was created back in 2012.

The main claim made by this Dennis guy is that he managed to grow 7 inches taller in the years of what would be considered puberty for most adolescents. He claim he grew 3.5 inches in his shins alone which took him 3 years to do. He refer to a type of exercise known as Chaos Training, which I have on idea what that is. It took me a few minutes to realize that Chaos Training is similar to the P-90X workouts that are becoming really trendy in recent years. The exercise is intermittent but highly explosive. The idea is to do bursts of high aerobic and anaerobic exercise to get the testosterone increased. I would guess at this point he is just talking to the guys who are reading his website. The increase in testosterone would correlate to a similar spike in GH release.

We have shown in previous posts that males who have an above average level of testosterone level in their system before adolescence do seem to end up with a higher than average final adult height. However too much of the hormone would lead to stunted growth. It is a really tricky thing.

He also claims that if you stretch out your abdominal area you will be able to lengthen your torso by 3-5 inches as well just from stretching out the cartilage. 3-5 Inches??

Other things he suggest is to try dry swimming, the cobra stretch yoga position, and to go cycling. His suggestion that you should raise the height of the chair seat of the exercise cycle is something dozens of other “grow taller gurus” have suggested. There have been no results from this method, except maybe a few weak or injured knees.

The only section that was worth looking into was about how you can possibly lengthen the shins, which is just the front side of the tibia bones in the lower leg portion.

The main argument that is made by this Dennis Raney guy is that in Ancient China there was the practice of binding small girls feet to make them smaller. This shows that through excessive loading on the bone, the bone can be made to deform in the shape and angle one desires. The problem with this argument is that the Chinese Foot Binding is done to LITTLE GIRLS, NOT GROWN WOMAN. When you are young, the tarsals and meta-tarsal bones in the feet also have cartilage in them. The reason you can bind those feet to make them disfigured is that the binding is started when a girl is around 4-8 years old, much before her bones reach maturity, and the cartilage disappears. Try this practice of binding on a modern chinese woman’s feet and you would find that the feet can no longer bend to the will of just cloth. You might even get a slap over the face for being old fashioned and too traditional in thinking about the role of women.

It even states in the Wikipedia article that the binding of feet started even earlier, around the age of 2-5. (source)

In addition, I would like to quote how he defines the term puberty…

“Puberty is the stage in life when boys or girls become sexually mature. It is a stage of bodily change that usually happens between ages 10 and 14 for girls and ages 12 and 16 to 17 years for boys. Puberty affects boys and girls differently.”

Does this mean that this guy thinks that puberty is supposed to be over by the time we are around 17 years old?

I would guess due to just normal growth process and the variations of the distribution curve, for this person he probably kept growing past the age of 17. Growing in height at 19-21 is NOT unheard of. He went from 5′ 4″ to 5′ 11″. If I was to try to explain how he got so much taller, I would say he experienced a phenomena known as catch-up growth. Catch-Up Growth is what happens to the body of a adolescent who experienced slower growth rates earlier in their puberty years. The body goes into a sort of overcompensating process to increase the longitudinal growth of their bones to even out the growing line. For more understanding, we suggest reading the study Catch-up growth: definition, mechanisms, and models.

His claim on 7 inches over 3-4 years is not unreasonable. The Grow Taller Guru Lance Ward claimed that he grew about the same amount when he was around 20-21 as well. I would just put these guys growth process as an outlier, a data point in the overall set which is out of the ordinary. Growing taller for a male in their 20s is not normal but not impossible.

(Note: As a general rule I don’t link to websites which I don’t believe in. It is well known among people who work on the internet that putting in a link means that the website you link to gets more authority in the eyes of the search engines algorithms, especially what are known as high PR related websites).