I’ve been working hard on trying to increase my hand and feet size via clamping and I’ve had some moderate measurable success and I’m working to get more.
The reason I chose the hands and feet was because I didn’t want to be limited by clamping strength in terms of getting results. I’ve hard to order clamps that aren’t available in hardware stores and I may have to get even stronger clamps.
But one things I didn’t consider was the shape of the bones and not just the size(hands and feet bones are smaller).
The curved nature of the ribs means that LSJL is going to be more effective think of water in a curved pipe rather than a straight one.
The fluid inside the bone is going to be bouncing around all the curvatures of the rib rather than just flowing down a straight line. And take a look at how much more cartilage there is in the ribs than there is normally that likely means that the rib bones will behave differently from long bones.
And there is already LSJL going on in the ribs, it’s called scoliosis bracing. However, it differ from LSJL in that it’s not on the epiphysis(the weakest part of the bone) and that the load is static(although you are moving around in the brace).
Just by breathing you’re doing LSJL on the rib cage by all the expansion pressing against the ribs.
There’s also been reports of people getting larger ribs via pullovers but that is not LSJL.
Papers like this one report growth in the rib cage due to age, Quantification of age-related shape change of the human rib cage through geometric morphometrics, I couldn’t get the full study but the study established correlation between thorax(basically rib cavity size, the larger your ribs the larger the rib cavity) and age, weight, and height with weight being the largest correlation. And weight can perform lateral loading on the epiphysis, it’s just that due to curved nature of the rib bones it needs a lot less load than other areas and people store a lot of weight in their torso.
And another region of interest is the jaw which has a lot of curves too and a lot of people are interested in the jaw due to it’s importance in sexual dimorphism and it’s perceived impact in male dominance. Thank of Michael Cera, Zach Braff, and James Ellworth in terms of jaws.
I’m already doing LSJL on the jaw but I’m going to be working harder at it. Then I’m going to figure out how to do a routine for the ribs.
I’ll see if I can find more evidence of rib growth over time(you can help) and post about it definitively at the next LSJL update.
I think the only way for lsjl to be successful is to use it with powerful compounds. If you are doing lsjl i would think you might want to have compounds like bmp-2, fgf-2, real Growth hormone not seragoutues. Can you add some strong compounds to your routine, I think your results would be helpful for the community. I’m running alkoclars formula and probably going to add some high quality growth hormone to my routine.
Hello John, how long are you runnin alkoclars formula for and have you seen any success so far?
Hey have you seen any effects while doing alkoclars routine and how long have you been doing it? Any growth?
Ive been running it for about 3 months. The supply should last me about 4. Tbh i havent grown astrnomically I would have to say about 1cm- 1.5cm. I’ve noticed muscle gains even though I have refrained from lifting. I have had some growth pains in my legs a few nights i think.
how old are you bro?,and if you dont mind,how much did you pay for alcoklar’s formula?
Thanks
Steve
I’m 20.
I would like to tell you the price but I feel that I owe him his personal privacy regarding his product since he really helped me out. He is a really really good guy and I was surprised since he was very successful.
The pricing is pretty high compared to other for other chemicals but he said he had a 100% success rate. Based on what little info I could source I think that some of his ingredients are probably really rare to come by for normal people.
Also I don’t feel good pushing a product until I have got the expected results. Sorry for being vague but a lot of people have been scamming and disrespecting Alkoclar and the least I can do is not give out his specific because he can change them anytime and he should have the right to.
You can contact him at
alkoclar@gmail.com
(Please anyone who does contact him don’t abuse and take advantage of him. You will probably ruin it for people who genuinely want to grow taller).
I have an identical twin btw so once I reach my expected height tyler can just post our height difference and that should be enough proof i think.
if you do add HGH run 10iu’s daily,you should see some small gains from 1-1.5 inches of height after a few months,im gonna be running IGF-2 LR3 localized injection into the kneecap skin,along with LSJL and inversion you could see some good results,how old are you and have you seen any growth so far?
I cant afford to run 10iu’s daily. I’m probably going to run 4 or 5 iu’s of high quality hgh close to pharm grade.
Tyler, you’ve already increased your wingspan by 2 inches. Why do you need other proofs than that? I don’t get it. 95%.of people want you to focus on legs. The vast majority of readers are height increase seakers. The proof of LSJL concept have been done, other issue you have to deal with, is LSJL safety, nothing more.
Because I want pictures to be able to show people to gather resources (knowledge+money) to build a better LSJL device specifically suited to the task of generating pressure within the fluid of the bone rather than trying to rely on clamps designed for woodworking.
Hello Tyler,
I recently came up with an interesting idea for a potential investor or someone who could really put effort in it. There was this one guy “The Pharma Bro” Martin Shkreli. He really seems like he can build big things out of nothing and his focus is on the pharma industry + he is short statured. So maybe it would be interesting to confront him with all your findings LSJL and others and see if he is willing to start something as this could be for his own good and there for sure is tons of money in that endeavour. So then research on this topic could done much faster. What do you think about that?
Hello Tyler,
recently I had an idea and was asking myself what you might think about. So as you said the main thing holding back development in terms of lsjl and ohter hight increasing things is funds, ethics and also maybe not the right contacts. There is one guy who was recently in the media a lot “The Pharma Bro” Martin Shkreli. Actually he is very deep in the pharma industry, has tons of funds and values progress more than ethis (if you want to say it that way) + he is a short statued guy. So maybe one could contact him and discuss if he possibly would be interesting in further developing things as this would benefit him personally and also there is tons of money in it. What do you think about that ?
Well it’s not a drug. What angle would you go about approaching him with. This is why it’s so important to get visible progress to have something to show to get more resources.
Did you try to contact a guy named st.it from lsjl forum? He managed to grow approx. 4 cm. That’s the proof you need I guess.
I would be very careful contacting martin shkreli. He is smart and wealthy however he didn’t get there by being dumb. If you were to come up with a chemical and lsjl combination he would snatch it up so fast. This guy is in pharma which is all about money. Also this guy seems to not be ethical which means that he would patent your idea for money. The problem with he patent is that it would cost 10s of thousands of dollars and you would have to get it prescribed through the doctor. I would inquire with Russianstar peptides and the expert in height growth Alkoclar. These guys aren’t really in it for money.
Yes I know that this would be risky/the case but if he would get on it as it would also be beneficial for him I guess we would see first results in him and we would really know he is on it. Then of course he would sell it for high prices but I guess if there is some way to grow in a less invasive way as possible now (leg lenghtening) then it would be for the good of all even if it would be expensive. If it would cost $10000 per cm or whatever if you want to grow hard enough you could bring up that kind of money somehow. So I would say if there would be a way it would be good
I see. But take into consideration that your growth in feet doesn’t automatically imply your potential growth in legs. I would rather concentrate directly on the legs.
Trust me I’m doing tons of work on the legs. I just bought a new stronger clamp that I had to special order to jumpstart my progress. It’ll be 1500lbs strength versus 600lbs.
LSJL can be applied for spine?
Do you think the clavicle bone also has this benefit since it’s also curved and not straight? I just started doing LSJL where the clavicle connects to the scapula, by pressing down had on clavicle. But I’m worried that doing this might wear down the ligaments since I’m effectively pushing the clavicle onto the scapula. Due to this possibiliy I’ve also considered doing LSJL where clavicle connects to the sternum.
Yeah i’m testing the clavicle too as part of the arms testing as It’s not that difficult to clamp.
Tyler this is steve,i got my hands on some IGF-2 LR3 and will be running it,localized injections into the kneecap skin 25mcg each leg for a total of 50mcg ,i will update you on results as this compound seems very promising.
Thanks
Take before pictures. And post results if you get any changes whatsoever as even a minor change in bone shape could indicate that we can get height if we make adjustments.
Tyler im not running IGF-2 LR3 at the moment,im currently running IGF-1 LR3,side effects are hypoglycemia including sweating and some joint pains in the knees. today was my third injection of 50mcg,i run 50mcg daily.
I still waiting for an email answer or little advice , hope to get lucky ;D
I think hgh might be overlooked when it comes to growth. How many people in the world use pharm grade hgh? Most people who use hgh are bodybuilders and they waste it on muscle growth. The only other type of people are kids who have stunted growth and people with diseases (people with diseases wouldn’t have spare hgh to go to growth). Some people take like 2-4ius daily for youth retention. I think if an individual in their early to mid 20’s were to take about 10ius and not waste it on bodybuilding they would see good results. We already know the height community is really small; so many people in the world are taking high doses of high grade hgh and just sitting around?
I know I’ve seen HGH levels of people with gigantism and it was a lot lower than those who inject extraneous HGH. HGH increases bone turnover a lot so it would be great boon to LSJL though.
Yeah but for people who are in their mid 20s,using 10-20 IU of HGH could result in 1-1.5 inches of height,Michael’s article proves this point.
http://www.naturalheightgrowth.com/2014/11/28/overstimulation-hgh-growth-plate-closure-cause-slight-height-increase/
Tyler what supplements and chemicals increase fgf-2 in humans. Alkoclar always mentions this in his Quora post as being the most important height increaser.
Hi Tyler, is what Steve is saying correct?